Taxi for Mr. Brown

[The Super Pope]

Unless Gordon Brown goes, the Labour party are near certain to face electoral defeat. If he was pushed from within the Labour party, who would you like to see take his place?

Jack Straw MP: Current Justice Secretary, former foreign secretary. Popular within the party viewed as "a safe pair of hands". However he is associated with the Blair years (cough, Iraq) and at 61 he could be Labour's Ming.

Harriet Harman MP: Leader of the Commons, Lord Privy Seal, Deputy Party leader and Minister for women. A close ally of Brown, he could be persuaded to stand down in her favour. On the other hand, she is bitterly disliked by the majority of the British people and is viewed as incompetent. Being heir to Gordon with his consent could also be a poisoned chalice

Alistair Darling MP: Chancellor of the Exchequer. Under his stewardship there was the first run on a British bank since 1860, he is also closely associated with the 10p tax fiasco, and has drawn blame for events beyond his control due to the credit crunch. Another Scottish labour leader is unlikely to play well with English voters and the man's bizzare appearance would probably make him un-electable as he would lack credibility

Jacqui Smith MP: Home Sercretary and former Chief Whip. On her first day as Home Secretary Britain came under terrorist attack which her PR machine could play on. She is closely associated with the proposed 40 day detention for terror suspects which has been decried as Draconian, and with the government u-turn on cannabis classification. She rarely votes against the party line, including voting for the Iraq war and against an investigation into it.

Ed Balls MP: Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families. A close ally of brown, Balls has ben an integeral figure in New Labour's economic policy. Damaged by appearing to respond to David Cameron's assertion that New Labour have presided over the greatest ever tax rises with "So what?". Also, like Darling, his credibility would be damaged by his name and it's potential to be lampooned.

David Miliband MP: Foreign Secretary. Formerly a special advisor to Blair, he became Bitain's third youngest foreign secretary. He stood in for Bown to sign the Lisbon Treaty. H is popular within the party and is the most credible challenge to Brown. He declined to stand against Brown after the resignation of Tony Blair. He has been criticised for his failure to take a tougher stance on China.

Des Browne MP: Secretary for Defence, Secretary of State for Scotland. Traditionally a Brownite, Browne has been in the Cabinet since 2005. As secretary for defence, he has been blamed for the poor quality of equipment and accomadation for the British Military. As a Scot, he would have an automatic disadvantage with English voters. One of several catholics in cabinet, he voted to cut the limit on abortions from 24 weeks to 12.

Ruth Kelly MP: Secretary of State for Transport. Unpopular amongst the electorate for misuse of public funds, admitting to smoking cannabis, and for being a member of Opus Dei, Kelly is a potential vote loser. She has not voted for a single piece of pro-gay legislation, and has been criticised for promoting bio-fuels. Once tipped as prime minister, she is now unlikely to replace Brown. As secreatry for education, she had her own children placed in private schools. Her seat of Bolton West is a marginal yet she has not been permitted to change seat at the next election suggesting a lack of trust within the party.

[Erebus Pasha]

Ed Balls - just for the headlines when it goes wrong!!!

[The Super Pope]

Ed Balls - just for the headlines when it goes wrong!!!

The Sun would have a field day.

Darling would have a slightly different problem

[Senno]

Jack Straw(man) - Who can trust him? Next choice please.

Harriet Har(don)man - Obviously a feminazi. Next choice please.

Alistair Darling(getmeabeer) - Neanderthal. Next choice please.

Jacqui Smith - The dichotomy in names presents a confused individual. Elitist or common man? Next choice please.

Ed Balls(onfire) - Hmm, poor man. Next choice please.

David Milib(r)and(emandhangemhigh) - Obviously a law and order fanatic. Probably for the death penalty. Next choice please.

Des Brown(i)e - Pothead. Reminds me I need some magic mix. Next choice please.

Ruth (PatrickO')Kelly - Holy shite. An IRA terrorist for a choice? Next choice please.

Seems clear the British have no choice at all in the choices. Next election, PLEASE.

PS Senno made a funny.

[Каие]

Miliband. Wheres the poll?

[removeduser_426582376423734]

Miliband.

[Каие]

To be honest Miliband or Straw. Both would be good the rest are just useless.

[eventhorizen]

Why would Labour oust Brown? After four years of the Conservatives in control of the economy Labour and Brown will be back in.

This last year has proven the U.K thinks and votes only with its wallet and flag.

Give the ignorant masses four years of true economic ineptitude in the midst of the fiercest economic problems that could ultimately prove to be the worst ever and then let us see where the votes go and how well tabloid politics and self interest serves this country.

Ousting Gordon Brown and Labour because the U.K. has to tighten its belt while the worlds superpowers implode and face off over remaining resource fields must surely go down in history as the exemplification of the gravest flaw inherant in a capitalistic society that is mired in money worship. Putin must be splitting his sides with laughter.

[mongrel]

Why would Labour oust Brown? After four years of the Conservatives in control of the economy Labour and Brown will be back in.

This last year has proven the U.K thinks and votes only with its wallet and flag.

Give the ignorant masses four years of true economic ineptitude in the midst of the fiercest economic problems that could ultimately prove to be the worst ever and then let us see where the votes go and how well tabloid politics and self interest serves this country.

Ousting Gordon Brown and Labour because the U.K. has to tighten its belt while the worlds superpowers implode and face off over remaining resource fields must surely go down in history as the exemplification of the gravest flaw inherant in a capitalistic society that is mired in money worship. Putin must be splitting his sides with laughter.

I am comfortably off, thank you, and I still think Gordon is a moron.

It is not just the recent turns in the economy. Look how the county is being run, oppressive laws, freedom of speech curtailed, ID cards on the way, 2 wars without end, bin taxes sin taxes, they can't even manage to implement a budget properly. The Crew bye election material could have been written by the BNP. I hope that every freedom loving Briton kicks Labour in the (Ed) Balls come the next election.

[eventhorizen]

It is not just the recent turns in the economy. Look how the county is being run, oppressive laws, freedom of speech curtailed, ID cards on the way, 2 wars without end, bin taxes sin taxes, they can't even manage to implement a budget properly.

Cry me a river. Have you seen the state of other countries and the world in general in the last few years?

Or do you forget the minute it leaves the front pages? Here's to four years of lip service and the removal of Government that has lead Britain to its most prosperous domestic period and strongest international position since WWII. Brilliant timing.

Just as long as those scaffies work for free...

[The Super Pope]

Cry me a river. Have you seen the state of other countries and the world in general in the last few years?

Or do you forget the minute it leaves the front pages? Here's to four years of lip service and the removal of Government that has lead Britain to its most prosperous domestic period and strongest international position since WWII. Brilliant timing.

Just as long as those scaffies work for free...

Strong international position? There's this thing called the Iraq war. Traditionally we have been allies of the Arabs, now we are bitterly hated in the Middle East.

[mongrel]

Cry me a river. Have you seen the state of other countries and the world in general in the last few years?

Or do you forget the minute it leaves the front pages? Here's to four years of lip service and the removal of Government that has lead Britain to its most prosperous domestic period and strongest international position since WWII. Brilliant timing.

Just as long as those scaffies work for free...

The state of other countries is not relevant to this thread, although you will find that I have and will comment on matters outside the UK in where appropriate.


This man has not been able to produce a proper fiscal policy since becoming PM. Fact, not opinion.

Strong international position? Why did Gordon no-mates have to sign the Lisbon treaty all by himself?

I still maintain that Gordon is a moron. It is mainstream opinion, even inside the Labour party.

[CrayonVonCaesar]

They are nearly all multicultist reptiles. Common purpose, haters of Britain and culture. Destroyers and ursurpers.

Of that list, I would have half of them sacked and two of them tried for treason and shot
I say make the banana leader.


my spoon really is too big.

That said, they wil not replace Brown at this stage, it would do them no good at all.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Unless Gordon Brown goes, the Labour party are near certain to face electoral defeat. If he was pushed from within the Labour party, who would you like to see take his place?

Jack Straw MP: Current Justice Secretary, former foreign secretary. Popular within the party viewed as "a safe pair of hands". However he is associated with the Blair years (cough, Iraq) and at 61 he could be Labour's Ming.

Harriet Harman MP: Leader of the Commons, Lord Privy Seal, Deputy Party leader and Minister for women. A close ally of Brown, he could be persuaded to stand down in her favour. On the other hand, she is bitterly disliked by the majority of the British people and is viewed as incompetent. Being heir to Gordon with his consent could also be a poisoned chalice

Alistair Darling MP: Chancellor of the Exchequer. Under his stewardship there was the first run on a British bank since 1860, he is also closely associated with the 10p tax fiasco, and has drawn blame for events beyond his control due to the credit crunch. Another Scottish labour leader is unlikely to play well with English voters and the man's bizzare appearance would probably make him un-electable as he would lack credibility

Jacqui Smith MP: Home Sercretary and former Chief Whip. On her first day as Home Secretary Britain came under terrorist attack which her PR machine could play on. She is closely associated with the proposed 40 day detention for terror suspects which has been decried as Draconian, and with the government u-turn on cannabis classification. She rarely votes against the party line, including voting for the Iraq war and against an investigation into it.

Ed Balls MP: Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families. A close ally of brown, Balls has ben an integeral figure in New Labour's economic policy. Damaged by appearing to respond to David Cameron's assertion that New Labour have presided over the greatest ever tax rises with "So what?". Also, like Darling, his credibility would be damaged by his name and it's potential to be lampooned.

David Miliband MP: Foreign Secretary. Formerly a special advisor to Blair, he became Bitain's third youngest foreign secretary. He stood in for Bown to sign the Lisbon Treaty. H is popular within the party and is the most credible challenge to Brown. He declined to stand against Brown after the resignation of Tony Blair. He has been criticised for his failure to take a tougher stance on China.

Des Browne MP: Secretary for Defence, Secretary of State for Scotland. Traditionally a Brownite, Browne has been in the Cabinet since 2005. As secretary for defence, he has been blamed for the poor quality of equipment and accomadation for the British Military. As a Scot, he would have an automatic disadvantage with English voters. One of several catholics in cabinet, he voted to cut the limit on abortions from 24 weeks to 12.

Ruth Kelly MP: Secretary of State for Transport. Unpopular amongst the electorate for misuse of public funds, admitting to smoking cannabis, and for being a member of Opus Dei, Kelly is a potential vote loser. She has not voted for a single piece of pro-gay legislation, and has been criticised for promoting bio-fuels. Once tipped as prime minister, she is now unlikely to replace Brown. As secreatry for education, she had her own children placed in private schools. Her seat of Bolton West is a marginal yet she has not been permitted to change seat at the next election suggesting a lack of trust within the party.

Odd list, David Miliband is by a good margin the frontrunner.

[Freddie]

Given the list of choices..............Labour ought to ask Tony Blair to step back in, none of those other candidates are up to it, in all honesty Labour ought to grateful for the past 11 years and accept that it's their turn in opposition after the next election. A new leader now would simply be a stop gap between now and Cameron.

Although I’m not a Labour supporter I’m truly flabbergasted with Gordon Brown’s premiership. When he became PM, his image was that of a man who would stand and fight (clunking fist cliché’s and all), tough and strong, he maybe a left winger but at least your going to know where you stand with him. Looking back at this facade now he is nothing more then an old blusterer full of mixed messages and a man who is lost in Tony Blair’s long shadow.

[Father Jack]

I think that his premiership has prehaps been one of the worst in British political history. Im not a Labour supporter but I look back on the Blair days with a degree of happiness!

Now I feel like a poor citizen of one of the most over taxed countries in the world

[removeduser_487563287433]

It's jumping the gun. I would be really, really surprised, unpredictable circumstances aside, if Gordon Brown steps down. Remember; not even the front runner for the leadership has openly challenged him.

[Harry Lime]

Really this is the last warning. If this wanders off into the same murky pools as last time infractions will be given & the post deleted. You have nothing to gain & everything to lose. Re-opened..

[Roman Rapper]

Removed off topic reply

ON topic, of all the choices, I guess I would chose Miliband to replace Brown. He seems a better choice than the other candidates.

[Carach]

Unless Gordon Brown goes, the Labour party are near certain to face electoral defeat. If he was pushed from within the Labour party, who would you like to see take his place?

they will lose whoever they put in his place. Its about the party in general not the personalities that run it.

I'm with you there, say whatever you want about Gordon Brown, he;s not a good PM, but he was a good chancellor as far as history goes and we don;t want to return to the Tory days of economic incompetence.

its been over a decade since our last tory government for starters, things have changed.

Secondly, Gordon brown was never a good chancellor. The guy has practically been in charge since blair won his first election and has systematically destroyed everything in the pursuit of nothing but a short term political gain (that is now completely irrelevant due to so many other ups) in the form of an economy that has 'never prospered so much' (that is, until all his borrowing and other dodgey dealings come back to bite him, and all of us, in the arse - that time doesnt seem to be too far off either...)

I'd take any big claim like the above with a pinch of salt when it comes to brown and the labour party. They like making big juicy vote-winning claims like that without it actually having any part of the truth whatsoever attached to it. Massive labour spin, its been their strategy since their running for elections over a decade ago and its been a major part of their running of the country.