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    Default diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    hello guys! this great forum inspired me to try modding, and now i need some help. (for starters i apologise for my bad english)
    i edited stailess steel 6.1 to rename hungary to croatia, changed faction symbol, tuned some units and everything workes fine except diplomacy settings. nomather what and how i edit diplomacy lines in descr_strat no one is at war at game start, not even with rebels?

    theese are my diplomacy settings :

    faction_relationships england, at_war_with slave, france
    faction_relationships france, at_war_with slave, england
    faction_relationships hre, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships spain, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships venice, at_war_with slave, hungary
    faction_relationships sicily, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships milan, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships scotland, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships byzantium, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships russia, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships moors, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships turks, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships egypt, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships denmark, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships portugal, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships poland, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships hungary, at_war_with slave, venice
    faction_relationships knights_templar, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships aragon, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships kievan_rus, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships ireland, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships norway, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships lithuania, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships teutonic_order, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships kwarezm, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships mongols, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships papal_states, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships cumans, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships slave, at_war_with england, france, hre, spain, venice, sicily, milan, scotland, byzantium, russia, moors, turks, egypt, denmark, portugal, poland, hungary, knights_templar, aragon, kievan_rus, ireland, norway, teutonic_order, mongols, lithuania, kwarezm, papal_states, cumans

    and at game start everybody is neutral?
    can anyone help?

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    Default Re: diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    don't quote me on this but i think you will need to edit these as well there just above that section you wrote.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    faction_standings england, -0.2 france, scotland
    faction_standings england, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings scotland, -0.2 england
    faction_standings scotland, 0.2 france
    faction_standings scotland, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings france, -0.2 england
    faction_standings france, 0.2 scotland
    faction_standings france, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings venice, -0.2 byzantium
    faction_standings venice, -0.45 milan, hre
    faction_standings venice, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings milan, -0.4 venice, hre
    faction_standings milan, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings hre, -0.2 poland
    faction_standings hre, -0.45 venice, milan
    faction_standings hre, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings poland, -0.2 russia, hre
    faction_standings poland, 0.2 hungary
    faction_standings poland, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings hungary, -0.2 byzantium
    faction_standings hungary, 0.2 poland
    faction_standings hungary, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings spain, 0.2 portugal
    faction_standings spain, -0.85 moors
    faction_standings spain, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings sicily, -0.2 moors
    faction_standings sicily, -0.45 byzantium
    faction_standings sicily, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings denmark, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings portugal, 0.2 spain
    faction_standings portugal, -0.85 moors
    faction_standings portugal, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings papal_states, -0.45 hre
    faction_standings papal_states, 0.2 england, portugal, poland, hungary
    faction_standings papal_states, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings moors, -0.2 sicily
    faction_standings moors, -0.85 spain, portugal
    faction_standings moors, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.2 hungary, venice
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.45 sicily
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.85 turks
    faction_standings byzantium, -1.0 slave
    faction_standings turks, -0.65 egypt
    faction_standings turks, -0.8 byzantium
    faction_standings egypt, -0.6 turks
    faction_standings egypt, -0.6 slave


    Last edited by J@mes; May 26, 2008 at 07:15 AM.


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    Default Re: diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    thanks, mate! i edited those as well, adding -1 to factions which i wanted to be at war immediately, but i didnt know that about map.rwm. i will try deleting it now. thanks for help!

    EDIT: unfortunately, that didnt solve the problem. there is still nothing at diplomacy screen, no enemies, allies. nothing.
    and, i noticed another problem. all rebelions are villages(no castles, towns) with no army inside?
    Last edited by open season; May 26, 2008 at 06:10 AM.

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    Default Re: diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    Your problem is somewhere else in the descr_strat file. Processing of the file stops after an error. Which will cause everything below that error to be non-existent. That includes rebel garrisons and infrastructure in rebel towns as well as diplomatic relations.
    You should have a look at your system log to find the error.

    Oh yeah, changes in the descr_strat do take hold only in a new game. The map.rwm needs only to be deleted if any of the map files have been changed.










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    Default Re: diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    weirdest thing is that sistem log is fine. before this diplomacy/rebel problem system log reported errors with line and column location, but in this case system.log is clear, no errors reported.
    thanks for information about descr_strat functioning.

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    Default Re: diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    You might have by accident reversed some entries: First the initial faction entry, then the cities, then the characters. It might take a while to find it as this is not an obvious error. My guess is that something is not in order with your conversion of Hungary. Did you create a new faction or did you adapt the old one?










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    Default Re: diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    i managed to find error. it was extra bracket (this one: } ) in settlements line.

    for hungary conversion i converted hungary to croatia. i wanted to add croatia from scratch but that was too much for beginner like me. so for start i decided to try renaming hungary, to gain some modding expirience, and now after i managed this, i will try more demanding stuff.
    thanks for help everyone!

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    Default Re: diplomacy issue when submodding ss6.1

    Glad to hear you got it fixed.










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    thanks again. i had no idea that single bracket can cause so many problems. i will be more caucious now on!
    regards!

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