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    Default Century X’s Personal House Rules to Roma Surrectum

    1. Use Century X’s Auxilia Legion System

    2. No retraining of cohorts once on campaign(Only retrain them after the war)

    3. Avoid Bridge Battles

    4. Never use Cheats

    5. Never exterminate a city. Always put them into slavery. Show Mercy

    6. Only Exterminate cities if they have rebelled against you.

    7. No training of whole armies in newly conquered cities.

    8. Do not recruit more than 1 legion of the same name

    9. Only recruit 10 Republican Legions.

    10. Only recruit 10 VE legions.

    11. Recruit any number of Auxilia Legions.

    12. No reloading of saved games.

    13. Always give the AI an advantage.

    14. No bribing of cities.

    15. No Bribing of Armies.

    16. No bribing of family members.

    17. Play on Hard/Hard or Hard/Medium.

    18. Use Auxilia legions to patrol your republic.

    19. No Rushing, no blitzkrieg tactics.

    20. No Multi war fronts. Meaning, do not invade Macedon and Carthage and Gaul at the same time.

    21. Always go to battle with a real legion. No going into battle with 11 Principes, 9 triarri and a general. Use the proper compositions of legions.

    22. Premarius legions Compositions: 5 Hastati, 5 Princepes, 5 Triarii, 2 Velites, 2 Cavalry, 1 General.

    23. Republican and Imperial legions composition: 1 General, 1 1st cohort, 9 cohorts, 6 Auxilia units(4 light Infantry Cohorts, 2 Light Auxilia Cohorts(Missile), 1 Archer Auxilia, 22 Legionary Cavalry.

    24. Auxilia Legion Composition: 1 General, 9 Auxilia Light Cohorts, 5 Light Auxilia Infantry (Missile), 3 Archer Auxilia, 2 Legionary Cavalry.

    25. After you conquer a city. Destroy all production buildings and temples.

    26. No sinking of enemy armies in boats.

    27. Use Roman Tactics on the battle field. (I understand some users don’t know how to use proper tactics) But if used properly it adds a form realism into the game.

    28. Expand Historically as possible.(Don’t go off and invade Egypt from the start or Greece)

    29. Use governors to govern your cities. DO NOT USE family members(Only when there at an old age and retired)

    30. Use Force Diplomacy Mod only to end a war. (Example: You fight Gaul off the European Continent and they still have cities in Britannia send a diplomat to them and end the war) Do not use it to gain advantages over the AI. Its already Stupid

    31. Use the Free people to use as buffer zones between factions. Always works for me.

    32. If you recruit a pre marius legion or Ve legion in the city of Ariminum then that is the city where it is retrained. This goes for all the rest of the legions you make and there corresponding cities. This for me creates more unity to your legions. You know where they come from and who they are.(I use Excel to organize it all as well as writing down where each Governor is and what city he is Goveroring)

    33. When Sieging a city. Maximum number of turns to starve them is 4 turns. We all know the AI will barely send troops to relieve them so give them a break and attack the city.

    Well I follow these rules to the letter. And it makes it alot more fun for me. I just wanted to share this with you fellow Roman Players

    Any questions are Welcomed
    Last edited by century x; May 25, 2008 at 10:49 PM.
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    What a comprehensive list. It should be useful to all you vile Roman players out there =P. + rep Century X.


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    Why thank you icydawg. I forgot one rule Its number 33
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    I also use the Late Roman Empire system. After the wars when in the pAx Romana I use the The Legions as Comitatenses and the Auxilia as limitanei.

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    i agree and always use such a system ... but ...

    26. No sinking of enemy armies in boats.

    say this to the ai and notice that this isnt historical correct!
    The night was so black, as we planned to attack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legio XV Apollinaris View Post
    26. No sinking of enemy armies in boats.

    say this to the ai and notice that this isnt historical correct!
    Well come on man. If you sink there armies then it becomes less of a challenge. IF they sink yours then your in a pickle.

    For example in my roman campaign I was transferring my faction leader with his legion from Athens port to Rhodes where it was ambushed. So I had to figure out a way to continue the war without him. So yea
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    Quote Originally Posted by century x View Post
    Well come on man. If you sink there armies then it becomes less of a challenge. IF they sink yours then your in a pickle.

    For example in my roman campaign I was transferring my faction leader with his legion from Athens port to Rhodes where it was ambushed. So I had to figure out a way to continue the war without him. So yea
    yep.. this happened to me as i was moving my fleet from massilia to conquer palma! the carthagians surrounded my fleet and sink it! my whole army with a very good general get lost!

    but i doesnt mean that you should always do that, but if i move my fleet and its stopped by an enemy fleet with an army on it, ill sink it! i must be stupid if doesnt do that!

    another example...
    after i conquered caralis from the carthagians.. after a few turns they parked a fleet with a small army for more as 3-4 turns directly for my port and doesnt land the army on the island! ill sink it! but most of the time the ai is lucky while i havent noticed their fleet and they land their army successful!

    i think, this should be also depend on which recruitment system you use... 1 or 0 turn recruitment! i always play with 0 turn and so its no problem for the ai (and me) to build up a new army in 1-2 turns!

    for historical accuracy in the first punic war ... on both sides (roman/carthagians) lost armys on his fleets!
    The night was so black, as we planned to attack!

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    I play on 0 turn
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    Quote Originally Posted by century x View Post
    33. When Sieging a city. Maximum number of turns to starve them is 4 turns. We all know the AI will barely send troops to relieve them so give them a break and attack the city.
    hehe, sometimes I besiege a city repeatedly for 1 or 2 decades, until all of the garrison units strave to death and I can take it without a fight
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    Could you elaborate on point 13.

    I think i will try to incoporate some of these rules into my game, but im not really a fan of your army composition (5 triarii?!?!?!? isnt that a bit easy?)

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    "29. Use governors to govern your cities. DO NOT USE family members(Only when there at an old age and retired)"

    There are too many family members to make this one feasible - in my opinion.
    The other problem is that only a few family members end up as credible generals, and at the beginning i only have 3-4 armies at most. 1 in the south and 2 in the north patrolling the southern alps and Illyria. That only makes it feasible having 3-4 family generals. What to do with the multitude of family?

    My house rule for this involves putting each family member through a few years of academies/scriptoriums, seeing what traits/anciallries they pick up; then placing the militarily talented as head of an army, and the promising managers as governors or core Italian cities. I only hire governors for newly conquered provinces therefter.

    One other house rule: only hire the governors in Rome or other major core cities then send them to their destination city for which they will govern. This is a@ more realistic b@ they can be trained for a couple years before they go on their mission so end up as better governors.

    If one hires governors in newly conquered cities normally they end up as crap until an academy can be built.

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    Ya i think 5 triarii is a little much too. It makes taking out their enemy horse charges too easily with so many triarii.

    My usual stack pre-marian is as follows:

    4 hastati, 5 principe, 3 triarii, 2 velites, slightly later- 2 barb merc archers, 2 equites, 1 general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by century x View Post

    3. Avoid Bridge Battles
    Those are hard to not avoid, i fight them once in a while.
    4. Never use Cheats
    Ummmm i have auto won battles when I have 4 legions on one city. I don't always have time

    13. Always give the AI an advantage.
    this rule is a little silly. The AI almost always has the advantage, what are we going to do anyways? Disband cohorts? We could fight in numerous fronts but...

    20. No Multi war fronts. Meaning, do not invade Macedon and Carthage and Gaul at the same time.
    This is strange because you said you want to expand as historically as possible, then you would have to. Also you wanted the AI to have an advantage at all times. This would be a perfect way

    [/quote]22. Premarius legions Compositions: 5 Hastati, 5 Princepes, 5 Triarii, 2 Velites, 2 Cavalry, 1 General.[/quote]
    leave 3 triarri instead of 5. The Romans had less triarri maniples than princeps and hastati. I use the 2 extra slots for mercanaries

    31. Use the Free people to use as buffer zones between factions. Always works for me.
    We should always let the AI have the advantage right...:hmmm:
    Having a buffer means less wars for you, and the AI having a bloody struggle to get to that city.

    32. If you recruit a pre marius legion or Ve legion in the city of Ariminum then that is the city where it is retrained. This goes for all the rest of the legions you make and there corresponding cities. This for me creates more unity to your legions. You know where they come from and who they are.(I use Excel to organize it all as well as writing down where each Governor is and what city he is Goveroring)
    well this rule is ok, but VE legions and regular legions didn't really have replacements. I don't anyways, so this doesn't apply to me.

    This is a great guide no doubt, i just wanted to point out a few things. Thank you for your time in putting this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oli View Post
    Could you elaborate on point 13.

    I think i will try to incoporate some of these rules into my game, but im not really a fan of your army composition (5 triarii?!?!?!? isnt that a bit easy?)
    Alrighty. This Rule is mostly explained bu another rule. Don't over run the AI in an invasion. When you see a enemy full stack near a bridge don't park an army on the bridge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Waters View Post
    Those are hard to not avoid, i fight them once in a while.

    Ummmm i have auto won battles when I have 4 legions on one city. I don't always have time

    Well thats all you. Remember these are my Rules

    this rule is a little silly. The AI almost always has the advantage, what are we going to do anyways? Disband cohorts? We could fight in numerous fronts but...


    This is strange because you said you want to expand as historically as possible, then you would have to. Also you wanted the AI to have an advantage at all times. This would be a perfect way

    Well I dont remember Rome invading Gaul and Macedon at the same time
    22. Premarius legions Compositions: 5 Hastati, 5 Princepes, 5 Triarii, 2 Velites, 2 Cavalry, 1 General.[/quote]
    leave 3 triarri instead of 5. The Romans had less triarri maniples than princeps and hastati. I use the 2 extra slots for mercanaries

    I been using this setup since RTW 1.0 and I like it. Once more These are my RUles


    We should always let the AI have the advantage right...:hmmm:
    Having a buffer means less wars for you, and the AI having a bloody struggle to get to that city.

    Well if you follow these rules. YOu will be asking for buffer zones. Due to that your legions will be weak half the time and not able to do anything.

    well this rule is ok, but VE legions and regular legions did really have replacements. I don't anyways, so this doesn't apply to me.

    Well there you go. Thats all you

    This is a great guide no doubt, i just wanted to point out a few things. Thank you for your time in putting this out.
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    Rome invaded many areas at the same time, especially during the empire.
    Even in the republic though, Pompey was fighting in the middle east along with Crassus, Caesar was fighting in Gual.

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    Then don't follow that rule.

    REMEMBER these are my rules. You don' have to follow each one to the letter. YOu can use w/e you want
    Last edited by century x; May 26, 2008 at 03:33 PM.
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    I just wanna give you a hard time

    Although i would like to challenge you to a debate at Garbsader's

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    holy crap! I would 2!

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    Why would you guys want to challenge me in a debate
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    i don't know, i just want to debate something

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