SS 6.1 Game crashes every single time I enter battle.

**dr_guerra** · May 25, 2008, 09:34 PM

The menu works fine, I can start a campaign, play the game, but as soon as I start a battle the game will crash to desktop. Every single time.

I tried Quick battle, I tried historical battle, I tried custom battle, and just plain old regular campaign battles.

I get the loading screen, the load bar, it loads a little, then poof, crash.

I have yet to try a battle of any kind in SS 6.1 so far. I've changed my graphics options around, whether they are set high, medium, low, auto-detect, doesn't matter what my audio is set at, it always always crashes.

I've never had this issue with Medieval II, Kingdoms, Broken Crescent, Retrofit mod, etc.

My PC:
Core 2 duo E6400
2 gb of dual channel Corsair DDR2 ram
ATI 2900 XT
MSI Platinum 975x Platinum PowerUp edition motherboard.
X-Fi XtremeMusic sound card.
Tons and tons of hard drive space, at least 200 gb.

So I have no clue what is causing this. I've tried different factions and it crashes when I enter battle.

I'm quite perplexed. I have retail versions of both games, from the DVD, and I have them patched with the official patch.

this is the systemlog:

16:35:04.200 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/_M2_MP_HISTORICAL_BATTLE_CHOOSE_TEAMS.TGA is missing
16:35:04.200 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/TEXTURES/_M2_MAIN_MENU.TGA is missing
16:35:04.903 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/buttons_composite2.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.903 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/slider_composite.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.903 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/slider_composite2.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.903 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/border_4pix_black_gold2.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.903 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/text_border.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.903 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/yellow_highlight.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.903 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/border_4pix_black_gold_selected.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.919 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/border_4pix_black_gold_black.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.919 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/_M2_Selection_Glow.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.919 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/unit_card.tga.dds is missing
16:35:04.919 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/icons.tga.dds is missing

**Chim** · May 26, 2008, 02:07 AM

What sub-mods have you installed?

**wolfslayer** · May 26, 2008, 02:10 AM

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896647.aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896642.aspx

Download both, put shortcuts on desktop.

add windowed mode to ss6.cfg

[video]

windowed = 1

Run debugview when you first start game.

Right before you launch battle, start filemonitor

When game crashes immediately save both program log files, filemonitor's first.

Zip both and attach here; there's a 75% chance I can tell you what's crashing your game.

**Petykemano** · May 26, 2008, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by wolfslayer

Zip both and attach here; there's a 75% chance I can tell you what's crashing your game.

Here is mine.

Installation order:
M2tw
Kingdoms with or without 1.5
SS 6.0 Part 1 installed twice, part 2 installed twice
SS 6.1 installed twice with included RC+RR, BYGIII, and arrows; or without all of these

All of the above lead to crash when entering battle (Venice, turn 4 against a rebel settlement)
Sometimes the battle screen doesn't get shown, sometimes it gets shown, but when I try to scroll the screen it crashes.

I have E4300 and Radeon X1950 Pro with 4.8.442 omega driver

The debug log:
http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/PETYGEP.rar

The filemon log:
http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/Filemon.rar

Thanks

**wolfslayer** · May 27, 2008, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Petykemano

Here is mine.

Installation order:
M2tw
Kingdoms with or without 1.5
SS 6.0 Part 1 installed twice, part 2 installed twice
SS 6.1 installed twice with included RC+RR, BYGIII, and arrows; or without all of these

All of the above lead to crash when entering battle (Venice, turn 4 against a rebel settlement)
Sometimes the battle screen doesn't get shown, sometimes it gets shown, but when I try to scroll the screen it crashes.

I have E4300 and Radeon X1950 Pro with 4.8.442 omega driver

The debug log:
http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/PETYGEP.rar

The filemon log:
http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/Filemon.rar

Thanks

If you can't get battles to run with just Kingdoms, 6.0, and 6.1 installed only, I'm don't know what the problem is.

Wish I could help..

**Petykemano** · May 29, 2008, 01:11 AM

I played a quick battle with French against Cuman without any problem.

Originally Posted by wolfslayer

If you can't get battles to run with just Kingdoms, 6.0, and 6.1 installed only, I'm don't know what the problem is.

Wish I could help..

I reinstalled everything beginning from M2tw again
No change

In the first battle of the campaign the game crashes to Desktop due to unspecified error.

The same thing happens when I try to play a custom battle on a map which says "no user-defined settlement is allowed"
The rest, where I can define settlement, change season and weather works perfectly fine.

Does this bring you any closer to a resolution?

**Boudicca** · June 10, 2008, 04:26 AM

I hope you dont have any errors in your RAM memory. I had this problem at the beginning of this year - everytime I enter battle, ctd. Found out that it was an error in one of my Ram modules that was causing it. The strange thing about it was, that it never happened with the 1.0 or 1.2 version of the game.

**Gorrrrrn** · May 26, 2008, 04:29 AM

(you have installed both parts of SS6.0 ?)
(you need to install both, the installer in part 1 only installs part 1.)

**Chim** · May 26, 2008, 08:24 AM

Have you unpacked your game?
If so, have you deleted the Geo files?

**Petykemano** · May 26, 2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Chimaeira

Have you unpacked your game?
If so, have you deleted the Geo files?

Unpack the game? No
I haven't done anything but what I listed:
M2tw
Kingdoms
SS 6.0 part1, part2
SS 6.1

I deleted nothing.

Originally Posted by wolfslayer

Petykemo, the http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/Filemon.rar is a debug log too, not a filemonitor log ;-)

Debugview will show the system.log.txt info; I don't see any major errors in it.

If you can try and post filemonitor log again...

true!
I corrected my mistake.
http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/Filemon.rar is now a filemonitor log.

-Use the edit button.
Chimaeira.

**wolfslayer** · May 26, 2008, 10:03 AM

Petykemo, the http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/Filemon.rar is a debug log too, not a filemonitor log ;-)

Debugview will show the system.log.txt info; I don't see any major errors in it.

If you can try and post filemonitor log again...

**dr_guerra** · May 26, 2008, 11:31 AM

ehh? there is a part 2? Am I retarded or something?

I only saw one exe for 6.0?

I have retrofit mod and broken crescent mods, but should that effect it if they are installed in the mods section?

Thanks for the help so far guys, appreciate it.

oh god there is a part II. I feel so stupid. Thanks, I never suspected they'd split it up.

Haha

-Use the edit button.
Chimaeira.

**wolfslayer** · May 26, 2008, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Petykemano

true!
I corrected my mistake.
http://astroempires.freeweb.hu/Filemon.rar is now a filemonitor log.

I can see a lot of info in your file, but it is harder to find crash cause when mtw2 is not unpacked, because so many files are read from inside the packs,
and it's harder to tell when a texture or model is not loading.

Can you run a custom battle with Venice against any faction and make sure the Venice Mounted Sergeants load and look okay.?

That was last unit the game was reading when it crashed.

Check as many Venice units as you can in custom battle - era ALL

**Petykemano** · May 26, 2008, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by wolfslayer

I can see a lot of info in your file, but it is harder to find crash cause when mtw2 is not unpacked, because so many files are read from inside the packs,
and it's harder to tell when a texture or model is not loading.

Can you run a custom battle with Venice against any faction and make sure the Venice Mounted Sergeants load and look okay.?

That was last unit the game was reading when it crashed.

Check as many Venice units as you can in custom battle - era ALL

I reinstalled the game from the beginning.
I tried to play a Venice custom battle without any cavalry. Crash
I tried to play a Venice custom battle with only a Dism. Feudal Knight. Crash
I tried a Quick battle, crash
I tried again, and I could play a quick battle with the French against Cuman.

**duda** · June 10, 2008, 04:52 AM

Guys, i got the same problem...CTD every battle...
HEEELP PLEEEASE!

**~~ubersoldat42~~** · June 10, 2008, 04:58 AM

DAAAAAMN! I have the exact same problem...A COMPLETELY CLEAN INSTALL with only SS apart from vanilla kingdoms...I installed both parts of SS, and every time I have a battle I get a CTD...I didn't unpack or mod anything...What should I do?

**Petykemano** · June 12, 2008, 02:15 PM

I finally found the problem and the solution.
I installed the game to my older computer and it worked perfectly. I noted that installing Kingdoms took much longer than on my present computer. Then I compared directories. SS directories were identical, but the original game's files showed strange differences. I checked the version of Medieval2.exe and it was only 1.00.
I realized that due to the remnants of a previous installation in the registry, Kingdoms installer never upgraded M2TW to 1.02 and 1.03.

I uninstalled the whole game and cleared the registry of all entries regarding M2TW. Installed again and now it seems to work finely.

**Gorrrrrn** · June 13, 2008, 05:45 AM

pleased to see you sorted out the mess Petykemano.

Installation / uninstallation problems def seem to be at the root of a lot of these issues people are having.

**ricebowl** · June 13, 2008, 10:23 AM

sup to all, just wanna provide my suggestion or recommendation since I have experience the similar problem(CTD when enter battle), for my case, from a fresh start(nothing installed), I patched it to 1.5 b4 install stainless steel, and I crashed, but if I install SS6.1 then patch it to 1.5, it works...:hmmm: reasons for so many install and uninstallation(total of 8 times yesterday) was due to the fact taht I was trying to incoportate all mods together, and out of the 8 times re-do, the first 4 times I only extract SS folder once, and 1 time(which means 25% chance) that the installer didn't fully open and extract all the files(this may be another case lead to game crash), so the remaining 4 try outs I extract all the files twice, which now everything runs very smooth together, hope this info can provide some helps to the others with the CTD issue...

**johnnymustang** · June 16, 2008, 09:26 PM

IM getting the same problem. I cant see the battles.
My campaign works fine. but when i get into battles it crashed

Could'n find effect description string for trait(LogisticalSkill) level(Logistician_effects_desc).
23:22:57.125 [game.script] [error] Condition parsing error in mods/Stainless_Steel_6/data/export_descr_ancillaries.txt, at line 8412, column 25
Trait not recognised
23:22:57.125 [game.script] [error] Condition parsing error in mods/Stainless_Steel_6/data/export_descr_ancillaries.txt, at line 8428, column 25
Trait not recognised
23:22:57.125 [game.script] [error] Condition parsing error in mods/Stainless_Steel_6/data/export_descr_ancillaries.txt, at line 8444, column 25
Trait not recognised
23:22:57.125 [game.script] [error] Condition parsing error in mods/Stainless_Steel_6/data/export_descr_ancillaries.txt, at line 8460, column 25
Trait not recognised
23:26:42.171 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.