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    It's just my opinion but don't you guys think archers aren't as effective as it should be? I had about 200 archers firing at General's Cavalry, which consisted about 10 soldiers. It took about 10 rounds of arrows (200 arrows x 10=2000 arrows..) to kill those General's Cavalry. I thought it was a little too unbalanced.

    Anyone know if I can edit the file to make arrows hit with more accurate % or cause more damage? I know you can change the range but I wasn't sure if you could change the damage it costs to your opponents.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by soccerlover10cf; May 25, 2008 at 04:58 PM.

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    Yes you can. Increase accuracy and damage potential vs. armored units are both possible.

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    Oh, okay. If you can tell me how it's done...that would greatly appreciated.

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    well you can gain unit experience to improve damage and such

    but for armoured units such as generals bodyguard its best to use crossbows

    as spain i have 6 units of mounted crossbows with all gold chevrons that can decimate entire stacks of armoured troops

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    I'm really getting back into my English campaign and I have found the longbows to be some of the most deadly units in the game if used correctly. Taking out generals is not their specialty, leave that to your heavy cavalry and spearmen. If destroying huge swaths of the enemies attacking force (and remaining untouchable from cavalry) is your objective, you can't go wrong with longbows.

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    " Longbows are proof god hates the French. - Engrish

    ILMAO funniest thing i read in a forum , I'm gonna sooo sig that, you should be proud of yourself mate!! lol



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    England's archers are very effective.

    Don't use them against General Body Guards however.

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    Archers are supposed to be used against a large group of enemies. Next time try to use them against a charging enemy line. The enemy is usually severely weakened by the time they reach your lines.

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    mounted X-bows are some of the sickest units this side of mounted muskets

    I think the archers work ok this game. you can't just let them fire away and hope they be effective. and they're typically better against large stacks than small stacks. ( find Ballitas to be the best anti-small stack unit )

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    They made England too strong in this game. Not surprising, considering CA is British, right?

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    If anything, England is very poor in 1v1 multiplayer

    their campaign advantage spawns mostly from their positioning, and that their weakness is rarely exploited properly by the AI.

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    I agree with RollingWave

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    Longbows are better against armor then other archers (longer range = powerful bow = more force = more penetration power) as it says in their description bonuses. Still no match for crossbows or gunpowder though.

    I'm not a huge fan of crossbows though, they power is nice but they take so long to reload between vollies. I prefer the quick firing of slightly lesser power arrows.

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    Default Re: England's Longbowman or archers in general.

    Longbows are great and very effective, you were just using them against the wrong target.

    Use them against large numbers of medium or lightly armored foot troops and they will drop like flies.

    They are even pretty good against medium knights.

    But bodyguard units are very heavily armored, so most arrows are not going to get through the armor, there were only 10 of them, so most of the arrows are going to miss, and even if they both hit the target and get through the armor, bodyguard units have 2 hit points, so they still won't go down.
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    I think the bows are O.K in the game.. I mean.. the armour is more advanced from the days of Rome and dear lord how much more horrible the Mongols would be if the bows were any more powerful.

    Oh, and arquebuses and muskets are pretty darn deadly against bodyguards,whereas with longbows killing the bodyguard units seems to take much, much longer time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccerlover10cf View Post
    It's just my opinion but don't you guys think archers aren't as effective as it should be? I had about 200 archers firing at General's Cavalry, which consisted about 10 soldiers. It took about 10 rounds of arrows (200 arrows x 10=2000 arrows..) to kill those General's Cavalry. I thought it was a little too unbalanced.

    Anyone know if I can edit the file to make arrows hit with more accurate % or cause more damage? I know you can change the range but I wasn't sure if you could change the damage it costs to your opponents.

    Thanks.

    Generals are mostly worth over 1250 gp so some resistance is to be expected against cheap kills like archery. Historically even longbows were worthless against heavy armour despite Brit fantasies to the contrary (which also ignore that the English lost the 100 years war)

    Bows are currently fine, they chop up lighter troops nicely and are good for scaring units and thinning out defenders. The can wipe out units when concentrated and its rare for mine to not kill their own number of bodies in a game.

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    i would say longbows are more effective than any other wepon in the game because if used properly they can do any thing slaughter spermen make cav do stupid charges into your stakes and fight in a mellee with a bit of support btw the best way to use them is to the old box with armouerd sergheants and place your archers in the place where the sergeants ARE standing so the stakes go in friont of them and that gives your archers ability to kill cav + protection from inf oh yeah u also have to put skirmsh off

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    Longbowmed are simply the best. I never bother with archers or peasant archers. If i have longbows with me i know that ill be able to kill at least 3 full units of infantry before they can reach my line.Most of the time those units will be armored knights. Ultimate ranged unit
    Longbows do work



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