Code Pink

[Farnan]

What do you guys think of Code Pink, the protest group in the United States.

Some Youtubes:




(oh yea by blocking the entrance they are breaking Civil Rights laws)

[Heinz Guderian]

I dont know much about them. Whats the worst thing they have done when it comes to protesting?

Protesting is indicative of a vibrant democracy. It acts to securitise issues and raise awareness. Doing it peacefully and within the law is very important however.

They are trail blazers to people who agree with them, they are probably hated by those who disagree with them politically and ideologically. Like all things. Just like this forum.

[Farnan]

Protesting is indicative of a vibrant democracy. It acts to securitise issues and raise awareness. Doing it peacefully and within the law is very important however.

Except these protestors subvert democracy. I don't mind anti-war protestors, but these people block out any opinion that does not agree with them. They do so by entering into Congressional Hearings and making outburst, blocking people from entering government buildings (which is highly illegal) and work to silence dissent using city council's like Berkely's.

[Heinz Guderian]

Except these protestors subvert democracy. I don't mind anti-war protestors, but these people block out any opinion that does not agree with them. They do so by entering into Congressional Hearings and making outburst, blocking people from entering government buildings (which is highly illegal) and work to silence dissent using city council's like Berkely's.

Forgive me if i'm wrong sir, (my American history is rubbish) but didnt such occurences occur during the 1960s/civil rights/ Dr MLK?

[skullman86]

Yeah the last one was pretty bad.I don't think I could act in a calm manner if I had to put up with that crap .I'm a little surprised this is still going on though.I remember hearing about this group vs the marines like 5 months ago and they are still harassing the recruiting station?

[Farnan]

Yeah the last one was pretty bad.I don't think I could act in a calm manner if I had to put up with that crap .I'm a little surprised this is still going on though.I remember hearing about this group vs the marines like 5 months ago and they are still harassing the recruiting station?

That may not have been the Berkeley one, they do that to a fair amount of them.

[Da Skinna]

Oh my god that last one is aggravating.

[Lysander13]

They are out of their damn minds. Completely disgusting circus group. All they need are the clown noses.

[Farnan]

No, not really, not MLK's gang. The White Supremecists did it though, which is why they made it illegal to try to use force or threats to prevent someone from employment.

I say they should start persecuting them under this law: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...Cite:+18USC245

[Heinz Guderian]

No, not really, not MLK's gang. The White Supremecists did it though, which is why they made it illegal to try to use force or threats to prevent someone from employment.

didnt they break the law for sitting in White Only seats on buses? Before extending civil disobedience to other areas.

I still think that the fact these kind of people exist is testament to the plurality of the American democratic system.

[danzig]

didnt they break the law for sitting in White Only seats on buses? Before extending civil disobedience to other areas.

I still think that the fact these kind of people exist is testament to the plurality of the American democratic system.

True but I think the merit of the protest matters alot. MLK and company lead protests for equal rights, rights denied them. Code Pink is protesting "all soldiers are baby killers". A more accurate comparison for Code Pink would be if MLK had lead protests that all white people were racist. So I think Code Pink is an example of making a mockery of the rights of democracy, especially since as we see they are more then willing to deny others their rights..something people like MLK never would accept, rather then a testament to it much like say Rev Phelps.

I wonder how Cindy Sheehan one of the biggest Code Pinkers like knowing her fellow morons techincally view her own son as a warcrimminal.

[danzig]

Pretty much the dumbest people in this country next to Phelps and his inbred family. Every last one of Code Pink is a complete moron and for the first time ever generalizing a group is indeed accurate. I love the first video "what were we doing in Hawai anyway?" when asked about WW2. When people use the term "anti american" it actually does apply fully to Code Pink people, these are clowns who said the US military was occupying New Orleans after Katrina.

[Farnan]

Breaking the law by sitting on buses are different from subverting democracy by denying people oppurtunity for employment or Congress to interview leaders of the war effort. Also its different from getting a city council to basically make it impossible to protest against them.

[Heinz Guderian]

Breaking the law by sitting on buses are different from subverting democracy by denying people oppurtunity for employment or Congress to interview leaders of the war effort.

but Congress gets to hear the esteemed leaders eventually right? Surely its just trying to get on the news kinda protest?

Also its different from getting a city council to basically make it impossible to protest against them.

did not know this. How did they manage that?

[Farnan]

but Congress gets to hear the esteemed leaders eventually right? Surely its just trying to get on the news kinda protest?

Yes, but this interferred with the process. Trying to get on the news protests are easy, openly write a letter challenging a news analyst, protest on the steps of the capitol, protest in front of the White House, but don't interfere with the democratic process.

did not know this. How did they manage that?

The Berkeley City Council gave them permanent rights to protest in front of the USMC Recruiting Center along with a permanent parking space only they could park. The only voice allowed there was Code Pink's.

[skullman86]

Breaking the law to sit in a seat is still breaking the law (you cant play favorites so if the law was broken then it was broken) but thats not to say it was a justifiable law which is why it was *changed*.Blocking someone from their place of work on the other hand is not going to be legalized any time soon since it actually effects the rights of the working individual.

I suppose our system is in partly to blame because when you give out freedoms there will always be people who chose to twist their meanings and push the envelope (sometimes pushing the envelope is justified but not always).They took their protesting which was probably legal and pushed it too far.Those cops could've arrested them on the spot....that whole *we are trying to be neutral* excuse was bs, they don't get paid to be neutral, they get paid to enforce the law.

I don't understand where these people are coming from with the whole fascist/police state garbage either.If this were a police state I don't think they'd be protesting at all, They would either disappear, never to be heard from again or they'd be publicly executed.Seriously, the fact that you are allowed to protest and burn the #1 thing that symbolizes your freedom (our flag) shows that this is not a fascist state

[misfitsfiend138]

group of complete idiots

[Kiljan Arslan]

Bunch of s who deserve an ass kicking.

[JP226]

it's great they don't breed.

[Trey]

God, only in Berkeley. Even in Seattle, I kid you not, if they tried that there would be broken noses.