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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/05/23....ap/index.html

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Food and Drug Administration on Friday warned women not to use or purchase Mommy's Bliss Nipple Cream, marketed by MOM Enterprises Inc. of San Rafael, California.

    The cream, promoted to nursing mothers to help soothe dry or cracked nipples, contains ingredients that may cause respiratory distress, vomiting and diarrhea in infants, the agency said.

    The potentially harmful ingredients in the cream are chlorphenesin and phenoxyethanol.

    "FDA is particularly concerned that nursing infants are being unwittingly exposed by their mothers to this product with dangerous side effects," said Janet Woodcock, director of the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research. "Additionally, these two ingredients may interact with one another to further compound and increase the risk of respiratory depression in nursing infants."

    The company has stopped selling the cream. The FDA said consumers should stop using the cream and consult a doctor if they experience problems or believe that their infant may have experienced problems due to the product.

    Mothers whose children may have suffered adverse effects because of this product should contact the FDA's MedWatch at 800-332-1088.
    You are not the only ones, bleah!


    Seriously, how many times has the FDA done this? Anyone else think that organization would be more beneficial to Americans if were revamped?
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    Huh? The FDA realized there was a problem and it was solved.

    Unless you suggest that there should be a case worker for every product sold there isn't really a decent solution.
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    What? Every product that is to be put on the market must be examined and deemed good to be put out. It's about safety of the public. How many products the FDA allows out that haven't been experimented properly for human use raises questions of how fast a product can be put out, and what cost.
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    Every product that is to be put on the market must be examined and deemed good to be put out. It's about safety of the public.
    Not really, as far as I know - that is. Most things are tested by the company to prevent lawsuits, the FDA only really comes involved when there is a problem. Most items aren't tested by the government because they couldn't do it on the kind of budget they get.

    How many products the FDA allows out that haven't been experimented properly for human use raises questions of how fast a product can be put out, and what cost.
    IIRC the cream in the article was made using over the counter ingredients, which are deemed 'safe enough' to be used with little supervision. therefore, it wasn't a problem till someone found out about the negative effects and let the FDA know - which then did its job and shut down the sale and production of the substance.

    If the cream was used in any other manner, it would've been fine, since you wouldn't be ingesting it. The problem came when it was made into a nipple cream where babies would ingest some of the remnants.
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    It really looks like the FDA did what was expected.

    On the other hand organizations like FDA really kill the entrepreneurial spirit (I think they are the main responsible for the demise of the snake oil industry) and contribute to the overpopulation (much less people are killed today by the medication than in the Middle Ages).
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    On the other hand organizations like FDA really kill the entrepreneurial spirit (I think they are the main responsible for the demise of the snake oil industry) and contribute to the overpopulation (much less people are killed today by the medication than in the Middle Ages).
    LMAO

    That was freakin great!

    On the off chance it was honestly sincere. The FDA works in consort with other administrations to promote Birth control, which directly negates the over population effect.
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    There's actually a MOM Enterprises!


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    the FDA are not the one's directly responsible for testing all products. and there are many products that dont require testing. That is y many people warn against the use of herbal remedies, because they dont have to pass inspection by the FDA. in any case, it first comes down to the producer to test the products. the FDA would actually be less efficient then it is now.

    and the snake oil industry is not totally dead, check out Super-Thrive. the product actually works, but it has the funniest packaging. (the the plant hormone that helped win World War II!)

    http://www.superthrive.com/page1.htm
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    Reminds me a bit of the fluoride controversy.

    Is it much adieu about nothing? History will tell. In the meantime people will spend much time and energy discussing the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald von Wolkenstein View Post
    The FDA has ducked ruling on fluoride for some reason. Fluoride has been used her in places since the 1040's. And is still in some products, and used by some municipalities water supplies.

    Ultimately will this product be helpful or harmful to the children taking it today? We don't really know, do we.

    That the FDA approves things that don't always turn out well is well known. They also don't evaluate every product since they may lie outside of the FDA's jurisdiction. Yet they have expert scientists working on these matters. They are not perfect in predicting the future however. And inferring that the Chinese do not need any regulations on such matters is irresponsible.

    They do their best, and scientists and ethicists are best qualified to judge the outcomes. Both short term and long term.

    Much is infered from very little that is written. Naturally biased much?
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    Your comparison is flawed. The cream contains compounds that are known to cause respiratory problems when ingested. It works fine as a soothing cream on the skin. The skin its being marketed for is nipples - which babies suck on - thus ingesting it.

    The fluoride controversy is flawed, because it has mixed results in its testing by private contractors - and the FDA's studies are also inconclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidmen View Post
    Your comparison is flawed. The cream contains compounds that are known to cause respiratory problems when ingested. It works fine as a soothing cream on the skin. The skin its being marketed for is nipples - which babies suck on - thus ingesting it.

    The fluoride controversy is flawed, because it has mixed results in its testing by private contractors - and the FDA's studies are also inconclusive.
    I didn't draw a direct analogy between the two products.

    I was commenting on how the FDA process works, or how the FDA process doesn't work for us on occasion. Us being the taxpayers in the US.

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    Default Re: People of China you are warned

    Cracked nipples.... cracked, bleeding nipples....

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    Default Re: People of China you are warned

    How are the people of china involved?

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    They're not the only ones who make products harmful to our children. We even beat them to the punch with harming infants!
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    I really don't think it is coincidental that all these tainted/defective products come from China. It's almost like they are trying to see how far they can push us.


    Keep pushing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    I really don't think it is coincidental that all these tainted/defective products come from China. It's almost like they are trying to see how far they can push us. Keep pushing.
    Oh come on, its made in china so its some conspiracy to kill America children, please...it was made in china as for some reason the west needs the cheap east to make their crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    I really don't think it is coincidental that all these tainted/defective products come from China. It's almost like they are trying to see how far they can push us.


    Keep pushing.
    Haha. Sure, it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЯoMe kb8 View Post
    Oh come on, its made in china so its some conspiracy to kill America children, please...it was made in china as for some reason the west needs the cheap east to make their crap.
    /sarcasm....

    Why would they want to sever relations with one of their biggest trade partners? Out of all the stuff they send us, of course there will be a few defective products...we can't expect every product to be 100% error free.

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    Haha. Sure, it is.
    It could be..
    Last edited by Pontifex Maximus; May 26, 2008 at 08:30 AM.

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