undestroyable vessel

**The Cobra** · May 23, 2008, 12:10 PM

while playing as the ayubids after destroying KOJ and capturing the holy lands i found something quite strange.
there is a lake
north-east of Jerusalem
east of Acre
south-east of Tyre
south-west of Damascus
it has a river south of it linking to bigger lake west of Kerak

my question is how can i destroy this fleet ???

**Spartacus the Irish** · May 23, 2008, 12:35 PM

Undestroyable isn't a word. If you can't get to the fleet, I'm guessing the fleet can't get out - so why bother?

**boerekovic** · May 23, 2008, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Spartacus the Irish

Undestroyable isn't a word. If you can't get to the fleet, I'm guessing the fleet can't get out - so why bother?

It May sink the trade income of the bordering cities, but i dont think so since there is no Port on that lake.

**The Cobra** · May 23, 2008, 12:41 PM

the problem is having a rebel fleet (pirates) in a lake in the middle of your empire.

**eggthief** · May 23, 2008, 12:44 PM

cant u put a family member next to the lake and hire a merc ship to destroy it? Or just for once cheat and move the fleet away?

**The Cobra** · May 23, 2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by eggthief

cant u put a family member next to the lake and hire a merc ship to destroy it? Or just for once cheat and move the fleet away?

great idea but sadly it isn't working, maybe trying next turn would bring some merc.

what cheat would bring a fleet in that lake with the usage of the right coordinates ?

**Faris ad Din** · May 23, 2008, 02:02 PM

<- Cheato supremo.

1. Press ~ (shift `) to bring up your console
2.Move your mouse cursor over the desired location (on TOP of the enemy is not good, just to make sure, you can't attack them then) and type: show_cursorstat - you will get x,y coordinates
3. Type move_character "character name" x,y
Whatever admiral it is. Admiral/Captain names are more simple than family members'.
Proceed to sink the fleet, and move the admiral back out.

Alternatively you can move the ENEMY PIRATE FLEET out to the Mediterranean where you can attack them there.

Unfortunately I don't know of any cheat to simply kill off characters/armies/fleets. That would have saved me lots of trouble, I did some naughty things to the Kypchak stacks by sticking them in some holes in the northern forests where they can't get out.

**Heinz Guderian** · May 23, 2008, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Faris ad Din

I did some naughty things to the Kypchak stacks by sticking them in some holes in the northern forests .

When i do that, i always get scratched up by sharp leaves and twigs. Its hard to explain the marks to the girlfriend.

I have a filthy mind.

Its my problem. I know, i know.

**The Cobra** · May 23, 2008, 02:20 PM

thank's a lot this is exactly what i want.

**Faris ad Din** · May 23, 2008, 02:23 PM

No problem. If you want more cheats, I'm the one-stop shop...

**Faris ad Din** · May 23, 2008, 02:40 PM

A wannabe tree-loving druid.

**Aurion** · May 23, 2008, 05:45 PM

Just outta curiosity, what's the problem with a dirty mind? It's (more or less) natural, isn't it?

Interesting, I did not know that "show_cursorstat" existed until now. Many thanks, Faris ad din. Got any other interesting ones?

Pirates also spawn in lakes near Konya, Hamadan, and a few other places. I think it's because there isn't a "lake" type of water, it's a movement tile of "the Sea", which means pirates can spawn there.

Odd story about that...on my Seljuk campaign I was sending my best general, at the head of my best army to the Nishapur area to slow down/stop the Khwarzemians, they had to stop close by the lake near Hamadan...and then a freaking storm hit, killed half my army and my general. Killed like...10 of about 250 pirates.

I would've been irritated, except that it was rather funny...and I learned a quick lesson.

**The Cobra** · May 24, 2008, 05:49 AM

I had this problem with one of my cities (Aqaba) and it's ashore the red sea so every time a pirate ship spawns near it i get a storm killing my population,soldiers and destroying my buildings.
It somehow feels more realistic that way.

**Aurion** · May 24, 2008, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by thecobra007

I had this problem with one of my cities (Aqaba) and it's ashore the red sea so every time a pirate ship spawns near it i get a storm killing my population,soldiers and destroying my buildings.
It somehow feels more realistic that way.

True that. It'd be cool if major weather events could be coded into the game, like blizzards, but I doubt it's possible.

**The Cobra** · May 25, 2008, 10:19 PM

yes that would be cool.

**Shadowcry** · May 25, 2008, 11:59 PM

I remember i had a similar thing with a pirate in a lake as the turks, and i thoguht it was funny and annoying eyesore but then one day a storm came out of nowhere and owned it lol