Chinese news agencies

[Bubbs]

"I removed my blog link"

I just moved to a new town and strolled into an Asian food market and found The Epoch Times newspaper. It is probably the only source of news coming out of China that isn't laden by the Chinese Central Propaganda Agency. You heard me right, they have a propaganda agency!

I admit, I am a Falun Dafa practitioner and no one in China has suffered more from the Chinese government than Falun Dafa practitioners in that country. I want to expose the news agencies for what they are in China and inform people that most news coming out of China isn't news. News agencies in China are completely government owned and controlled.

Here is the Epoch Times site:
http://en.epochtimes.com/index10.html

[bushbush]

LMAO....no one in the china has suffered more than you?

what about the 800 million Chinese peasants?

30 million of them starved to death during the Great Leap Forward.

what Falun Gong has go through is nothing seriously.

[Erik]

I want to expose the news agencies for what they are in China and inform people that most news coming out of China isn't news. News agencies in China are completely government owned and controlled.

How do you plan on doing this when the Chinese government controls the media and censors other channels like the internet?

Sounds like a Catch-22 to me.

[bushbush]

How do you plan on doing this when the Chinese government controls the media and censors other channels like the internet?

Sounds like a Catch-22 to me.

they can't control the internet or the private sphere of speech at all. Internet censorship has been a joke at best. And no one even bother censoring or controlling the private sphere exchange of information.

[Richard]

they can't control the internet or the private sphere of speech at all. Internet censorship has been a joke at best. And no one even bother censoring or controlling the private sphere exchange of information.

That's the truth; I know Chinese people in my class who when they go home simply avoid the filters by using a different web browser.

[Hunter Makoy]

well i guess it was more to show people around the world wat a joke the chinese news agentcies were, not people in the country, so in that case their censorship wouldn't matter much.

good to see u back bushbush.

[ray243]

Falun Gong again...please, when you are almost detifying the leader of the sect into a Buddha...it can't be good.

It gives a person too much religious power....

[Senno]

"I removed my blog link"

I just moved to a new town and strolled into an Asian food market and found The Epoch Times newspaper. It is probably the only source of news coming out of China that isn't laden by the Chinese Central Propaganda Agency. You heard me right, they have a propaganda agency!

I admit, I am a Falun Dafa practitioner and no one in China has suffered more from the Chinese government than Falun Dafa practitioners in that country. I want to expose the news agencies for what they are in China and inform people that most news coming out of China isn't news. News agencies in China are completely government owned and controlled.

Here is the Epoch Times site:
http://en.epochtimes.com/index10.html

Are government financed news agencies inherently biased and not to be trusted?

[Erik]

Are government financed news agencies inherently biased and not to be trusted?

Not at all, as long as they are aren't government controlled.

You need to remember that all news agencies are payed for by someone.
Commercial news agencies are payed by advertising companies, so they tend to not to put them in a bad light.

Government financed news agencies are really payed for by all tax paying citizens.
So they tend to serve the public as good as possible.

The newspaper in question is payed for by a religious sect.
That should be enough to make some warning bells go off.

Best strategy is probably to take the news for as many different sources as possible.....which is a lot easier in the West than in China.

[bushbush]

good post erik. One thing I thikn it's a positive trend in China since the 80s is that the government no longer actually controls much of news media. Before the 80s, all news medias were funded and controlled by the states. Today, many are technically still owned by the states, but are operating on their own, because the government is in a whole process of privatizing state-owned enterprises in all areas.

more importantly, the method of censorship is now something called self-censorship. That means there is no longer a censor sitting next to the editor all the time. Instead, editors were supposed to know what to write and what not to. Sometimes, editors who pushed the boundaries were sacked or even arrest to warn other editors the existence of such limits.

the result is that news media, to survive, have to find new and attractive materials to print to compete with other ones. With little actual censorship present in the process, editors often push the boundaries. Slowly, the limit of free speech is being eroded in China. It's become pretty evident compare to the number of media outlets, the materials they print, the sensitive topics they are able to discuss at the present to 20 years ago.

that's the strength of market reform eroding political limitations on a society.

note: we haven't even discussed the illegal magazines and books floating in the private sphere yet.

[Shaun]

Are government financed news agencies inherently biased and not to be trusted?

Depends on the government. The likes of the BBC are fine, but ones financed by communist governments that operate great censorship, like, say, China, then they are not to be trusted.

[ray243]

Depends on the government. The likes of the BBC are fine, but ones financed by communist governments that operate great censorship, like, say, China, then they are not to be trusted.

Even under censorship, they CAN be trusted to a CERTAIN extend.

Although one would need cross-examine certain source yourself to ensure that the information they are reporting is correct

[Hunter Makoy]

prolly not inherently, but the chinese news agentcies go a bit beyond just being financed by the govt.

[Bubbs]

prolly not inherently, but the chinese news agentcies go a bit beyond just being financed by the govt.

You are right there. What is different about Chinese news agencies is that journalists have to go through a government sponsored journalist training program and they are so bold as to actually have a central propaganda agency and call it that. That is pretty silly. Most other governments try to hide this stuff.

[bushbush]

You are right there. What is different about Chinese news agencies is that journalists have to go through a government sponsored journalist training program and they are so bold as to actually have a central propaganda agency and call it that. That is pretty silly. Most other governments try to hide this stuff.

just a question for you Bubbs.

since you said you are a member of Falun Gong group, do you believe the words of your leader in this interview?

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...9&postcount=14

[ChineseManchurian]

just a question for you Bubbs.

since you said you are a member of Falun Gong group, do you believe the words of your leader in this interview?

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...9&postcount=14

You're asking too much from him. A Christian must believe in the words of bible, and believe in Jesus. A Muslim must believe in the Koran (words by prophet Mohammad) and prophet Mohammad in order to be considered as Muslim. If FaLun Gong practitioners do not believe in the words of Li, the FOUNDER of FaLun Gong, then certainly he's not a FaLun Gong practitioner. For me, the practice of FaLun Gong can be classified as a branch of QiGong. Only those who believe in the words of Li HongZhi can be considered as FaLun Gong practitioner.

[Hunter Makoy]

You are right there. What is different about Chinese news agencies is that journalists have to go through a government sponsored journalist training program and they are so bold as to actually have a central propaganda agency and call it that. That is pretty silly. Most other governments try to hide this stuff.

thats y i think the more pressure to show how far off it is the better.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

Hmm I see many Chinese people giving this out for Free. Next time I see one i'll grab it. I wonder what they say about the Chinese oppression of Uyghurs.

[bushbush]

Hmm I see many Chinese people giving this out for Free. Next time I see one i'll grab it. I wonder what they say about the Chinese oppression of Uyghurs.

it's mainly about falun gong, which funds the paper.

good to see u back bushbush.

tx friend, can you help me to hunt down the motherers who marked my test papers?

edit:

When you do have the chance to read this paper, keep in mind that this is funded by a group with a pretty serious agenda as well.

that's why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epo...es#Credibility

[Dromikaites]

"I removed my blog link"

I just moved to a new town and strolled into an Asian food market and found The Epoch Times newspaper. It is probably the only source of news coming out of China that isn't laden by the Chinese Central Propaganda Agency. You heard me right, they have a propaganda agency!

Wow! A communist government controls the media, engages in censorship and operates a propaganda agency. That's soooooo surprising!

I admit, I am a Falun Dafa practitioner and no one in China has suffered more from the Chinese government than Falun Dafa practitioners in that country.

I admit, I am an Atheist and I believe people would be better off without religion in general. In the same time I think the government should only step in when religion results either in harming or exploiting the followers or pushes the followers to harm and/or exploit others. In the other instances the government shouldn't interfere with people's fantasies.

Since Falun Dafa looks harmless I really don't understand the Chinese government's reaction to it. It looks to me like a normal power struggle within the highest ranks of the communist party which spilled over into society (=some high ranking communists wanted to get rid of their colleagues who were Falun Dafa practitioners and thus come up with the idea of persecuting Falun Dafa).