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    Default General David Petraeus favors diplomacy with Iran

    Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, President Bush's nominee to lead U.S. forces in the Middle East and Central Asia, supports continued U.S. engagement with international and regional partners to find the right mix of diplomatic, economic and military leverage to address the challenges posed by Iran.

    In written answers to questions posed by the Senate Armed Services Committee, where he will testify today, Petraeus said the possibility of military action against Iran should be retained as a "last resort." But he said the United States "should make every effort to engage by use of the whole of government, developing further leverage rather than simply targeting discrete threats."

    Petraeus's views echoed those expressed by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, who this month said that talks with Iran could be useful if the right combination of incentives and pressures could be developed.

    Despite President Bush's repeated commitment to diplomacy to resolve problems with Iran -- including its activities in Iraq, an alleged nuclear weapons program and support for terrorist groups -- some lawmakers and U.S. allies remain concerned that military action is being contemplated.


    Bush has nominated Petraeus, currently the top U.S. commander in Iraq, to take over the Tampa-based U.S. Central Command, whose area of responsibility extends from the Horn of Africa to Pakistan. Petraeus would replace Adm. William J. Fallon, who resigned this year amid reports that he questioned the administration's sharp focus on Iraq at the expense of Afghanistan and other conflicts.

    Petraeus is to appear at today's confirmation hearing with Army Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, who served as his deputy in Iraq and has been nominated to replace him there. Petraeus's 46-page statement, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post, was prepared in response to Senate questions in advance of his committee appearance.

    Asked to assess conditions and potential actions in Afghanistan, where U.S. and other NATO troops are battling the Taliban, and in the tribal regions of Pakistan where al-Qaeda's leadership is based, Petraeus said he could not devote full attention to those areas until he assumed his new command.

    Petraeus's answers on Iraq reiterated much of his testimony last month. Asked what he thought were the "most significant mistakes the U.S. has made" in Iraq, his lengthy list included: erroneous prewar assumptions; a misplaced emphasis on early elections that resulted in "hardened sectarian positions"; slow adjustment of U.S. strategy to security challenges; failure to recognize the negative impact of the Iraqi government's slow political reconciliation; and U.S. misconduct at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere that "inflamed the insurgency and damaged the credibility of Coalition Forces in Iraq, in the region, and around the world."

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    And those who said we were about to go to war with Iran are being proved more and more wrong every day.
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    Is there anyone who is against diplomacy? This is getting so silly. Bush is against diplomacy? Just attack them.
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    Diplomacy is not use to appeased the enemy, despite what all the chickenhawks claim. It's used to draw the line in the sand (like the first gulf war) and tell them what they CANNOT do.

    Well I mean, it of course can be used any way, but the point is not to refrain from it, that's idiotic (not a surprise, though).

    War with Iran? More like it goes again how the "conservatives" are slamming the liberals. Way to read what you want into it.

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    Diplomacy is not use to appeased the enemy, despite what all the chickenhawks claim. It's used to draw the line in the sand (like the first gulf war) and tell them what they CANNOT do.


    Tell that to Chamberlain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush Limbaugh View Post


    Tell that to Chamberlain.
    lol. That was a good one.

    I think what he meant was that the US would try presuade Iran to stop funding Insurgents in Iraq and Hezbollah. Right?

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    Again like were not doing that now? Those are our pre conditions at the moment. He doesnt want pre conditions remember?
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    Hers me thinking you were libertarian yet you advocate intervention in Iran?


    Seeing as Patreaus is for diplomacy i don't see how McCain can continue to beat Obama with that stick.

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    Bush said there are those who would deal with our enemies... maybe he meant petraeus instead of Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MathiasOfAthens View Post
    Bush said there are those who would deal with our enemies... maybe he meant petraeus instead of Obama.
    lulz. nice.




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    Rush, why is it bad to talk to people we don't like, or people that do things we don't like? I mean realy, why? It isn't like we can't bomb them after we talk to them. I can't figure out why it is bad to talk to people insted of bombing them and hoping they get the message. Is that how you deal with people in your day to day life? If some guy cuts you off on the freeway do you run him off the rode?

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    This idea that we have absolutely no talks with Iran is absurd. We have no official diplomatic ties to them, but plenty is said back and forth through mediators, and otherwise.

    Its just one of those situations, of which there are many, where more goes on that meets the eye.

    As far as Bush, he is just playing the face card he dealt himself years ago, he isn't about to lay it down for another. Why would he, he really doesn't have all that much time left in office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Dissaray View Post
    Rush, why is it bad to talk to people we don't like, or people that do things we don't like? I mean realy, why? It isn't like we can't bomb them after we talk to them. I can't figure out why it is bad to talk to people insted of bombing them and hoping they get the message. Is that how you deal with people in your day to day life? If some guy cuts you off on the freeway do you run him off the rode?
    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    This idea that we have absolutely no talks with Iran is absurd. We have no official diplomatic ties to them, but plenty is said back and forth through mediators, and otherwise.

    Its just one of those situations, of which there are many, where more goes on that meets the eye.

    As far as Bush, he is just playing the face card he dealt himself years ago, he isn't about to lay it down for another. Why would he, he really doesn't have all that much time left in office.
    Both good posts that i agree with.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    This idea that we have absolutely no talks with Iran is absurd. We have no official diplomatic ties to them, but plenty is said back and forth through mediators, and otherwise.

    Its just one of those situations, of which there are many, where more goes on that meets the eye.

    As far as Bush, he is just playing the face card he dealt himself years ago, he isn't about to lay it down for another. Why would he, he really doesn't have all that much time left in office.
    Then what's the big deal? Obama said he would pursue diplomacy with Iran and everyone went crazy like he wanted to invade the moon.
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    good to see a general with some sense about him. He might make a decent president in the future.
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    Obamas black and hates America.
    Patraeus is a patriot.
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    Default Re: General David Petraeus favors diplomacy with Iran

    If talking isn't working, then wouldn't that mean the only way to change Iran's policy is military intervention?

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    I am confused, Rush. I thought that talking to people was a way of geting them to do what you want, is this right? I am going to supose that it is for now. If we tell Iran that we will talk to them after they do this or that, this or that being what we want them to do or not do, then why would we have to talk to them after that? Why is it so bat insane that Obama wants to try and talk it out with Iran to get them to stop being dicks? Why is it so bad that Carter went over to see Hamas and get them to stop being dicks?

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    I am confused,
    Obviously

    Why is it so bad that Carter went over to see Hamas and get them to stop being dicks?
    Their still dicks is why
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    Default Re: General David Petraeus favors diplomacy with Iran

    ^why dont you try answering General Dissaray's post instead of spamming smileys?





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    But every one was saying it was bad be for he went over there. They were all like, "Carter is ruening America by trying to talke to the elected governemtn of Palistine! HOW DARE HE!" Granted he didn't get much done over there, but name one single diplomatic exchange that has yealded profound results. This "with us or against us" forgin policy isn't healthy. You can only have so many enomies at one time, I would say that we are near our limit. If we don't start talking to people with out expecting them to ben over and takeing it up the ass befor we do so we won't get very far, at least not in my estamation.

    Did I realy only post those two lines in my last post? I could have sworn there was mroe to it than that.

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