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    Default People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?


    [JURIST] Doudou Diene [OAS profile; OHCHR backgrounder], the UN Special Rapporteur on contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia, and related intolerance, is visiting the US this week to gather first-hand information on issues of race relations [UNHCHR press release]. Diene's visit comes at the invitation of the US government. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) [advocacy website] called the fact-finding mission [ACLU press release] "a critical opportunity to shed light on the pervasive and systemic problem of racism and discrimination in the United States." The US envoy to the UN, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad [official profile] welcomed Diene, but stated that he did not think the visit was necessary, and that the UN Human Rights Council [official website] should "focus on real problems elsewhere." Reuters has more.

    In a report issued in November 2007 to the Third Committee of the UN General Assembly, Diene stated that increasing institutionalization of racist political ideologies and violent expressions of racism seriously threaten democracy and human rights [JURIST report]. Diene warned the UN [JURIST report] in March 2006 about a worldwide increase in racism and xenophobia, which were no longer confined to extremist groups but had become integral to mainstream democratic systems. Diene said that the fight against terrorism and other government initiatives had led to discriminatory immigration and asylum policies and a retreat from diversity and tolerance. Diene noted that racism was "commonplace" and ethnically and racially biased stances had become increasingly legitimized in intellectual discourse by respected scholars.
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    Shouldn't the world body worry about countries that don't have highly placed minority figures, such as Condi Rice, first?
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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Exactly.
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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    What do you mean by World Body?

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mariano Rodissy View Post
    What do you mean by World Body?
    Having read the original post, and also, having heard this story on the news, last night, I can only assume that he is talking about the United Nations.

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Wow, another sad thing the UN is doing....

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    And the thread title couldn't have been more to the point?

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Zalmay Khalilzad
    Shouldn't the mere name of the US Ambassador to the UN raise some red flags before they launched an investigation. The US Ambassador to the UN is an Afghan-American Muslim...
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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Look guys, if the UN investigated places with Real Problems; they'd have to actually do something.

    They couldnt go 'Yeah Zimbabwe's doing ok.' and sit back down, eat another donut; and cash another paycheck.


    By investigating things that dont need investigating, they can keep slacking; and now have to show their lack of actual power to anyone.

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    better than nothing.
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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Man View Post
    Look guys, if the UN investigated places with Real Problems; they'd have to actually do something.
    Thats because the UN is a world body composed of individual states, Each individual state not caring about anything save themselves.

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus View Post
    Thats because the UN is a world body composed of individual states, Each individual state not caring about anything save themselves.
    Quite obviously.

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    Longest. Thread. Title. EVER.

    I don't get the point either.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
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    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Longest. Thread. Title. EVER.

    I don't get the point either.
    Its to make people think that they are doing something. Its also a good way to distract people from real problems. Like genocide in other parts of the world.

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Remember the days when Americans used to love the UN? Before the UN told them to get ed when they wanted support for invading Iraq.




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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Longest. Thread. Title. EVER.
    QFT


    The UN is usless.
    Sigh...

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    No its far worse than nothing. It wastes efforts better spent elsewhere and makes the UN look worse to the US.

    And Heinz: I supported the UN till I read about Srbenca (sp) and Rwanda. Now I support the UN as a forum for international discussion and Humanitarian projects but not real action.
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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    OMFG that is ridiculous. I cant agree more with the OP on this.

    after hearing this i personally would tell the UN to Stuff it up their a$$, since if they dont have any real power anyway, we in the US can do whatever the heck we want in the world

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    Default Re: People are being massacred based on tribe in Darfur, Zimbabwe persecutes its White populations actively, Amerasians are just allowed the rights as citizens in South Korea, and who does the UN Investigate?

    Yeah, the UN can only do one thing at a time. Childish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilting View Post
    Yeah, the UN can only do one thing at a time. Childish.
    The point is the UN is doing zilch with any of the other issues. The entire "human rights" end of the UN has become nothing more then a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzig View Post
    The point is the UN is doing zilch with any of the other issues. The entire "human rights" end of the UN has become nothing more then a joke.
    Human Rights? Human rights don`t actually exist...they are more of a illusion...

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