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    Default What AI Battle Formation is used in 58BC?

    One of the major advantages of 58ВС is AI Battle Formation. Armies of Computer operate very cleverly, especially when try to surround the opponent. Unique lack that sometimes separate cohorts attack alone without support of all army. In Bellum Civile against strong Roman soldiers is not so badly. The Roman avant-guard with firmness keeps to the approach of the basic forces. But in Bellum Gallica It spoils game a little.

    But as a whole all is magnificent! AI Battle Formation from 58 BC the cleverest of all another.

    In expectation of "Marius - Sulla: First Man In Rome (FMIR)" and 77BC v.3, I play other RTW-mods. Unfortunately, in many of these mods very stupid AI Battle Formation.

    Whether it is possible to use somehow formation from 58BC in other mods?

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    The battle AI is all due to the genius of DaVinci. It is quite easy to use DaVinci's formations in other mods as it only requires copying one of 58BC files. BUT as there might be some issues with the internal names of some factions, I will give you more detailed instructions as soon as I get home.

    The file to use is descr_formations_ai.txt in the 58BC/data folder. But as we changed the internal name of one faction and we are using others in a different way of other mods, some editing of this file will be required. For instance, we have a faction named new_faction that uses the romans_senate slot. But in other mods it might have another internal name or still the romans_senate name. So you will have to replace new_faction in the descr_formations_ai.txt file for the proper name in order to make the mod work.

    Concerning other factions, I will give you an example: the one internally named britons is used in our mod as Nabateans. This means that its formations are with the Eastern factions (Parthia, Yuezhi). But if in your mod the britons are a barbarian faction, you will have to place it in descr_formations_ai.txt together with the other barbarian factions (Gauls, Germans,...) in order to get a good result.

    Hope this helps and please submit any doubt or problem that you have.
    Last edited by Salvor Hardin; May 21, 2008 at 02:23 PM.

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    Default Re: What AI Battle Formation is used in 58BC?

    I heard Da Vinci is even lending it to ROP....

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    Default Re: What AI Battle Formation is used in 58BC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Octavius Vatco View Post
    I heard Da Vinci is even lending it to ROP....
    That is new to me ... no, i only have made a custom edu and edb for RoP, rather my personal thing, and offered these kinds of changes to takeover for the official RoP.
    The here used ai formations file wouldn't fit for RoP, it would again need customising, not only for the concerning factions.

    Empe and Salvor, that's too much honor for me in regard of the ai formations, the ai formations file is done by Darth, i only customised it a bit, and this i do since Darth's ai formations files of his version 6.x, so since the year 2005 for different mod projects. Darth is the main master of RTW ai formations coding, not me, i only changed a few parameters to my likings.
    The ai formations that is in 58bc contained is out of my mind pretty much the same that is used in TFT, as i did this ai version for TFT first.



    To the topic opener, to use the same (the one of 58bc) ai formations file for other mods it would need a little knowledge about the different formation types, and then change the factions that use these, this isn't too complicate, there are greek, roman, barbarian, eastern, carthaginian and cavalry-based-faction formation types for antique tactics, and a few default/standard formations that eventually shouldn't get a faction-force (ie. especially the slave faction).
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    Default Re: What AI Battle Formation is used in 58BC?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaVinci View Post
    To the topic opener, to use the same (the one of 58bc) ai formations file for other mods it would need a little knowledge about the different formation types.
    I understand nothing in it

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    Default Re: What AI Battle Formation is used in 58BC?

    DaVinci is like the Indiana Jones of our team.

    New version of all 77BC and 58BC can be found HERE

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