Is the way to go!
Look at Nasar's Eygpt.
What are your opinions of this movement?
(helped you out for substance - Farnan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_socialism
Arab Socialism
Is the way to go!
Look at Nasar's Eygpt.
What are your opinions of this movement?
(helped you out for substance - Farnan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_socialism
Last edited by Farnan; May 20, 2008 at 09:19 PM. Reason: Inshallah
Cool and normal
Re: Arab Socialism
perhaps, however arab socialism has failed in other states. iraq being an obvious example.
true socialism wouldnt make allowances for the word arab being on the front there. it would just be socialism irrespective of what the nationality of people is.
it is however one of the first attempts at secularism in the arab world, which has to be given credit.
Last edited by antea; May 20, 2008 at 09:39 PM.
IN PATROCINIVM SVB MARENOSTRUM
*takes off trousers
Re: Arab Socialism
I'd prefer arab democracy. Full representaion and universal suffrage. But if socialism can provide this, than i'm with you broseph. Nasser is a god to some people, but he did hoard power and suppress opposition voices. If he was elected than i would not have that much of a problem with his outlook. But like many nationalistic projects, they often end in failure. Iing missed you man. Come here and hug me man. Dont be shy. Its not gay.
Re: Arab Socialism
No no those extremists say Socialism is a western evil. Can;t do it sorry (!)
Dux Limitis
Re: Arab Socialism
Well, it works in Lebanon and Libya.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Re: Arab Socialism
and in the USSR grrr.
Dux Limitis
Re: Arab Socialism
Socialism =/= Communism
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Primicerius
Re: Arab Socialism
Nassar was an emperialist arse.
Born to be wild - live to outgrow it (Lao Tzu)
Someday you will die and somehow something's going to steal your carbon
In contrast to the efforts of tiny Israel to make contributions to the world so as to better mankind, one has to ask what have those who have strived to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth done other than to create hate and bloodshed.
Re: Arab Socialism
But both are bad ideologies and extremely unsuccessful.
Under the patronage of Rhah and brother of eventhorizen.
Dux Limitis
Re: Arab Socialism
I'm guessing... Conservative?
Conservatism must be fairly high on the list of unsuccesful ideologies, mainly because it seems to turn people into contradictory arses.
Socialism sucks though, never caused any form of political reforms or unity *cough* Adolf Daens *cough*, always were warmongers *cough* ''Imperialist Conflict'' *cough* *cough* Zimmerwald Conference *cough* and aren't succesful in modern countries *cough* folkhemmet *cough* *cough* welfare *cough*
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Dux Limitis
Re: Arab Socialism
No it doesn't, it doesn't work any where in the mideast.Well, it works in Lebanon and Libya.
Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
Re: Arab Socialism
I was being sarcastic in case anyone was wondering.
Yes it does.
No he was a nationalist same as you.
Primicerius
Re: Arab Socialism
First of all, Im no nationalist.
Second, he was an emperialist, he tried to unite all the arab states under his rule.
Thats called emperialism.
Born to be wild - live to outgrow it (Lao Tzu)
Someday you will die and somehow something's going to steal your carbon
In contrast to the efforts of tiny Israel to make contributions to the world so as to better mankind, one has to ask what have those who have strived to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth done other than to create hate and bloodshed.
*takes off trousers
Re: Arab Socialism
and that would be bad for Israel.
Re: Arab Socialism
No thats pan nationalism, he was an arab pannationalist.
History and the current world climate obviously disagrees.
Primicerius
Re: Arab Socialism
The only Socialist regimes exists/existed are/were at Cuba, China, USSR and the Eastern Bloc, Leos, Vietnam, Cambodia and North Korea - all have field. There is a difference between 'Socialism', which generally means Communism, Democratic Socialism and other forms of Authoritarian, nationalized, Socialist regimes and 'Social Democracy' - which is mixed economy.
Sigh...
It Gets Worse.
Re: Arab Socialism
No its not, its called ethnic Nationalism.
Arab socialism is far more preferrable to Islamism, in my opinion. Saddam got it right.
The common culture of a tribe is a sign of its inner cohesion. But tribes are vanishing from the modern world, as are all forms of traditional society. Customs, practices, festivals, rituals and beliefs have acquired a flut and half-hearted quality which reflects our nomadic and rootless existence, predicated as we are on the global air-waves.
ROGER SCRUTON, Modern Culture
Dux Limitis
Re: Arab Socialism
Ali Ghadir an econominst from egypt (I think) on top of two others, richards and waterbury (American University of Beirut), who basically form all modern literature and empirical studies on mideastern economies seem to disagree.
Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
Re: Arab Socialism
From first hand experience it does.
Re: Arab Socialism
Where is socialism succeeding?
Under the patronage of Rhah and brother of eventhorizen.
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