sieging help

**feroXXXed35** · May 18, 2008, 01:24 PM

i was laying siege to a a city with two battering rams and a couple of ladders
both battering rams were destroyed by the tower arrows. THose on the ladders got in the city but were all killed
The rest of my army is stuck outside. Is there anyway I can still get in the city or is my only option to exit battle?

**Xavier Dragnesi** · May 18, 2008, 01:28 PM

Unless you use a cheat, not really.

**feroXXXed35** · May 18, 2008, 01:49 PM

how do u use cheats?

**Habelo** · May 18, 2008, 01:54 PM

http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/dos...de/589390.html

**Prince_of_Macedon** · May 18, 2008, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by feroXXXed35

i was laying siege to a a city with two battering rams and a couple of ladders
both battering rams were destroyed by the tower arrows. THose on the ladders got in the city but were all killed
The rest of my army is stuck outside. Is there anyway I can still get in the city or is my only option to exit battle?

Moving to Battle Planning.

**Cluny the Scourge** · May 18, 2008, 07:50 PM

You need three rams each manned by a cheap, expendable light-infantry unit - one of them will reach the gate. You should also dissipate enemy archer fire by spreading skirmishers in front of the wall in loose formation as well.

**Aristarchus** · May 19, 2008, 01:12 AM

I stopped using the ram all together and now just mine the walls in a couple places, which allows direct charges. I make a couple ladders in case I need to scale the walls from the outside, but find I never need to use them.

**HeroSK** · May 19, 2008, 02:21 AM

Use towers, I usually use 3 towers while assulting cities.

**Draugdur** · May 19, 2008, 04:10 AM

Yes, towers are most useful, but costly to build. I use ladders when I have a smaller army or not so many build points. Against stone walls, ram is only useful as a decoy, to avert fire arrows from towers; even if you break through the gate, you still lose too many men to boiling oil.

**Cluny the Scourge** · May 19, 2008, 08:47 AM

You take weak units with you to do the ramming itself - expendable fools to be burned by the oil before the real soldiers actually go through the gate. Persian Infantry, Warbands, Town Watch, Militia, etc. It is of no consequence if a few non-entities fall.

But towers are too vulnerable to being burned by enemy archers, because they have to stand up against the wall while the troops mount the ladders for far too long. While they're at it archer units can be peppering them, and then it finally catches fire while your assault unit is half-way ready - and they're massacred when it collapses.

**Al Merko** · May 19, 2008, 09:04 AM

When you attack city with stone wall use just ladders and towers. And use your skirmishers to distract fire from defenders. Most of your infantry should make to the top of walls. Try to position you siege equipment that you will be able to create local superiority. Then take towers as fast as you can. Now those superarchers in towers will start to kill enemy units below. Join in your skirmishers and half of enemy army should be destroyed before you even put your main force in action.

**Angrychris** · May 19, 2008, 01:33 PM

against stone walls never use rams imo. towers and saps are the best way to go.

**feroXXXed35** · May 19, 2008, 06:29 PM

can cav use ladders? lol jk
yo if ur get in city is it possible to open gates?
and are ladders reusable?

**Xavier Dragnesi** · May 20, 2008, 02:39 AM

If you get in the city, and get a unit of your troops to walk up the gateway tower onto the rampart at the top, then the gateway is yours and you can open it for your other troops to get through. As for ladders, once they are put on the walls, you can get as many troops to get on them as you like. They're not one time use.

**feroXXXed35** · May 24, 2008, 02:12 PM

how do u reuse the ladders and how to u get the units inside the city cuz the gateway is still closed

**Al Merko** · May 24, 2008, 04:31 PM

Xavier Dragnesi told you loud and clear.
Scale the walls and then have your unit on wall walk over gatehouse. You will get message coming down left on your screen, telling you that you captured gatehouse, Then you can move you cavalry in town through doors.
I recommend you to capture towers too, their arrows can wipe out whole units.

**feroXXXed35** · May 26, 2008, 03:58 PM

do u capture towers by moving ur troops through them?

**HeroSK** · May 27, 2008, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by feroXXXed35

do u capture towers by moving ur troops through them?

Yeah thats the way..

**Aristarchus** · May 27, 2008, 01:34 AM

One thing I recently notice, even on towns with wooden palisades, is missile fire from the wall towers even if none of the units inside are missile units! Gotta keep the approaching infantry away from the wall towers - and approaching the inner angle of a wall with a ram never makes it. Anyone know more about this unexpected resistance?

PS. Just had another experience with phantom archers, this time to my benefit. Holding Rome against the Scipii, I waited inside the walls while reinforcements approached. Rather than scurry to one side of the field like the Romans usually do, the Scipii army croweded the gate, waiting for my general's army to emerge. I waited, then heard the familiar "They're attacking us" - and sure enough, the enemy cohorts close to the tower gates were getting decimated by missile fire. By the time I emerged, at least two enemy cohorts were completely destroyed, making it much easier to sally out.