Animal rights in China

[Daneboy]

While cleaning up my funwall on facebook I saw this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uN5fC-kdUQ

Man, this is sickening stuff. I am by no means a "militaristric animal rights" promoter, but this is simply sickening and my girl is NOT getting any furs from China. (Not that she would have gotten one any way)

Do you guys think a consumer boycut of Chinese furs could force the chinese goverment to issue and uphold more "humane" animal right laws?

[communist]

While cleaning up my funwall on facebook I saw this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uN5fC-kdUQ

Man, this is sickening stuff. I am by no means a "militaristric animal rights" promoter, but this is simply sickening and my girl is NOT getting any furs from China. (Not that she would have gotten one any way)

Do you guys think a consumer boycut of Chinese furs could force the chinese goverment to issue and uphold more "humane" animal right laws?

no. animal rights will come as the chinese people get better living conditions and own more pets. there are more and more people in china owning pets such as dogs, but there are people who struggle just to make ends meet. alternatively, u could start some "educational" program to inform more chinese populace of animal rights. buying furs from china or not ultmately wont make much of a difference.

[Erik]

no. animal rights will come as the chinese people get better living conditions and own more pets. there are more and more people in china owning pets such as dogs, but there are people who struggle just to make ends meet. alternatively, u could start some "educational" program to inform more chinese populace of animal rights. buying furs from china or not ultmately wont make much of a difference.

I strongly disagree.

They only slaughter animals in that way because there is a market for cheap fur.
If consumers stop buying furs from animals that were mistreated, and only buy furs from well treated animals, then any smart Chinese fur maker will ensure his animals are well treated because that's where the money is (he'll probably get to charge a hefty premium for his now animal friendly fur, so more liquor and hookers for him).
It's all basic economic.

[ray243]

Add in to the fact that you will have a hard time trying to justify killing a dog for meat is any worse than killing a chicken for meat, or the morality of killing a insect...

[Emperor Taizu]

Shocking indeed, but I bet that there are other countries that are far worse than China in terms of animal rights.

[Daneboy]

Add in to the fact that you will have a hard time trying to justify killing a dog for meat is any worse than killing a chicken for meat, or the morality of killing a insect...

This is not about what kind of animal that is killed, but in what manner it is killed. Like in the video, where the animal is skinned alive and left to die by blood loss.

[Emperor Taizu]

This is not about what kind of animal that is killed, but in what manner it is killed. Like in the video, where the animal is skinned alive and left to die by blood loss.

And you think that China is the only country that skins animals like this? This, to me, is not a "China" issue, but instead it's an overall "human issue". Humans was, is, and always will be the largest threat to animals around the world.

[Daneboy]

And you think that China is the only country that skins animals like this? This, to me, is not a "China" issue, but instead it's an overall "human issue". Humans was, is, and always will be the largest threat to animals around the world.

No, it is not a specific "China isssue" but as China is among the largest fur producer in the world it would reduce the problem alot, if China would get rid of this horrible way of skinning animals. If nothing is done it will just continue like this for years and years. I see it as a terific opportunity for the political consumer.

Of course, I believe that all countries that allow this form of skinning should be boycuted, if they don´t change their ways, not just China. By boycut, I mean a boycut by the consumer, not a boycut on a state to state level.

I'm sorry, I'm more concerned about China's human rights.

Well, Ferret, so am I, but that doesn´t mean that I am not concerned about this also..

[removeduser_487563287433]

I'm sorry, I'm more concerned about China's human rights.

[Emperor Taizu]

I'm sorry, I'm more concerned about China's human rights.

China opened its borders because the western countries wanted them to be open. But, now the westerners are complaining that the Chinese are going to take over their jobs and they want the borders closed again. When China's population reached over 1 billion, the westerners were afraid that the Chinese would take over the world, so China oppressed their people and put the "one child per couple" law into action. But, now the westerners are saying and complaining that China has no Human Rights. See how stupid this is Ferrets54?

[removeduser_487563287433]

China opened its borders because the western countries wanted them to be open. But, now the westerners are complaining that the Chinese are going to take over their jobs and they want the borders closed again. When China's population reached over 1 billion, the westerners were afraid that the Chinese would take over the world, so China oppressed their people and put the "one child per couple" law into action. But, now the westerners are saying and complaining that China has no Human Rights? See how stupid this is Ferrets54?

What the hell are you talking about? Nobody is seriously suggesting closing the damn Chinese borders. And no, I don't see anything stupid about advocating human rights.

[Emperor Taizu]

What the hell are you talking about? Nobody is seriously suggesting closing the damn Chinese borders. And no, I don't see anything stupid about advocating human rights.

When China's population reached over 1 billion, the westerners were afraid that one day the Chinese will take over the world. To keep the world at peace with them, the Chinese government put the "one child per couple" law into action to lessen the westerners' fears. But, now the westerners are saying, "China has no human rights!" That, to me, is stupid because it was the westerners themselves that requested China to oppress its people, and they are now complaining about what they told China to do in the first place. Do you get it now Ferrets54?

[Sebdeas]

When China's population reached over 1 billion, the westerners were afraid that one day the Chinese will take over the world. To keep the world at peace with them, the Chinese government put the "one child per couple" law into action to lessen the westerners' fears. But, now the westerners are saying, "China has no human rights!" That, to me, is stupid because it was the westerners themselves that requested China to oppress its people, and they are now complaining about what they told China to do in the first place. Do you get it now Ferrets54?

The one child policy was put into place because of the fear that there wouldn't be enough food in the future. Not because the westerners were afraid of China ruling the world.

And that's not the Chinese problem with human rights. They arrest and people without cause and they send them to prison or execute them without trial. Then there is also the brutal way the Chinese government has put down several protests and you see that China isn't exactly a human rights champion

[gaius valerius]

When China's population reached over 1 billion, the westerners were afraid that one day the Chinese will take over the world. To keep the world at peace with them, the Chinese government put the "one child per couple" law into action to lessen the westerners' fears. But, now the westerners are saying, "China has no human rights!" That, to me, is stupid because it was the westerners themselves that requested China to oppress its people, and they are now complaining about what they told China to do in the first place. Do you get it now Ferrets54?

???? Is this Chinese propaganda? I think Sebdeas is closer to the truth.

[Joker85]

When China's population reached over 1 billion, the westerners were afraid that one day the Chinese will take over the world. To keep the world at peace with them, the Chinese government put the "one child per couple" law into action to lessen the westerners' fears. But, now the westerners are saying, "China has no human rights!" That, to me, is stupid because it was the westerners themselves that requested China to oppress its people, and they are now complaining about what they told China to do in the first place. Do you get it now Ferrets54?

[Hotspur]

I'm sorry, I'm more concerned about China's human rights.

Exactly. Fix the big problems first.

[removeduser_426582376423734]

I'm sorry, I'm more concerned about China's human rights.

Dammit, that was my line.

[Valentin the II]

They say: You can see how a country treats its people by watching how they treat their animals.

The problem is chinese mentality, more specifically: their dissreguard for living things.]
Fix that and you'll fix China.

[bushbush]

They say: You can see how a country treats its people by watching how they treat their animals.

The problem is chinese mentality, more specifically: their dissreguard for living things.]
Fix that and you'll fix China.

load of BS.

these people are desperately poor. And you sit on your comfortable moral high chair trying to tell them what to do?

they don't have high income, high education, great social security and medicare as you do my friend.

this like the old story where a rich kid asks about dying poors, why can't they eat meat sanwich every night.

edit:

and wtf is Chinese mentality? so other countries don't kill animals? and they kill in a humane way or something? Have you ever been to a slaughter house?

[Kiljan Arslan]

off topic but Heather Mills is a ing Gold digging tramp, wo should wear some concrete boots and jump off into a pier.

Although the chinese could do with giving the animals just a little better conditions.

WTF? Who would wear Racoon fur?