Allies as useless as tits on a bull

**~~Exarch~~** · May 16, 2008, 11:44 PM

when assaulting enemy settlements, i bust down the walls etc and expect my allies to move in the breach and fight and die for me (i was inspired by USA's example in ww2)...but the useless cowards just sit there and do squat!!
i remember back in rome:TW u could expect ur allies to be all out aggressive meatshields/arrow fodder, but in M2:TW, your allies are useless

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i remember i had a siege where my allied trebuchet in a full stack allied army busted down the walls and continued busting down the walls whilst its army just stood there.

**homefry** · May 17, 2008, 01:00 AM

I think they have to use up all their trebuchet ammo before they attack.

Next time, try using up all of your artillery ammo. It might work.

**~~Exarch~~** · May 17, 2008, 01:10 AM

thing was, even after the allied faction had finished busting down the walls so the walls looked like swiss cheese, only the trebuchet unit will move into the city and thru the streets...while the rest of the allied army looks on.

**Surgeon** · May 17, 2008, 02:13 AM

Were they set to aggressive stance?

**~~Exarch~~** · May 17, 2008, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Surgeon

Were they set to aggressive stance?

i'm playing M2:TW vanilla

**Captain Arrrgh!** · May 17, 2008, 03:00 AM

This title is politically incorrect. You'll be hearing from my laywer who represents the Soceity for Bulls born with Teets.

**eggthief** · May 17, 2008, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Arrrgh!

This title is politically incorrect. You'll be hearing from my laywer who represents the Soceity for Bulls born with Teets.

actually he just called the tits useless, now if it was "as bulls with tits" then yeah, he could be sued... in some universe out there.

**~~Exarch~~** · May 17, 2008, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Arrrgh!

This title is politically incorrect. You'll be hearing from my laywer who represents the Soceity for Bulls born with Teets.

LOL, 'useless as tits on a bull' is a very aussie saying.
that said,

@rantingheretic
yes, the AI should be more aggressive. i liked how the AI was aggressive in Rome:TW...unless of course CA improved AI such that the computer is letting your troops die on purpose so it can win against you in the campaign....

**RantingHeretic** · May 18, 2008, 01:17 AM

"unless of course CA improved AI such that the computer is letting your troops die on purpose so it can win against you in the campaign...."
If the AI were that smart, we'd have nothing to complain about...
Though, if it does reach that point, the next step is the computer crashing the game on purpose for "psychological warfare".

**RantingHeretic** · May 17, 2008, 03:32 AM

Somehow, my Jihad on Constantinople ending with me, the turks, and the moors all sieging the city at the same time. A good 6,000 men all told, against the Byzantines empires 1,000 or so.

So it should have been a massacre.

I had ladders and siege towers on the walls, the gate was bust open, I was outnumbered and fighting with fairly rubbish troops against Heavy Infantry, and the other 5000 men of my allies just sat there. When I got to the courtyard, the script kicked in or something, and they wall started walking towards the open gate. One man from the other sides didn't even make it inside the town before I had won.
Disappointing? Yes.
But hey, its the AI, what can you expect?

It also isn't always like that...I did a siege on Inverness as the Danes with England as my allies, and I totally let them do almost all the fighting.

I find a combat AI mod, ANY combat AI mod, will do relative wonders to the non-retardedness of your enemies.

Also, its surprisingly hard to find a picture of a bull with teets on the internet.

**HopliteLysander** · May 17, 2008, 09:45 AM

Playing as Denmark my Polish Allies totally saved my bacon against the Mongols. Never had them in a siege though.

**boerekovic** · May 17, 2008, 09:54 AM

Playing as the Turks in Broken crescent, my allied Abbasids are my vanguard against anyone dumb enough to attack me.
(already crushed the KoJ together, wonder when war between us will start)

**Jynx** · May 19, 2008, 12:40 PM

And after that point it holds a grudge for overwork and blows up whatever room it is in.

**MrMofo** · May 20, 2008, 10:22 AM

in kingdoms i have yet to have the reinforcements army attack. Most frustrating of all is the inability to form up and march into battle, being stuck in one of the corners for over 10-20 minutes.

the worst was yesterday when, at a bridge fight, the other army mixed their forces together and got them jammed. My computer locked up and it took over 40 minutes waiting for the time to run out.

reinforcements and allies simply dont work imho.

**~~Exarch~~** · May 20, 2008, 06:52 PM

yeh, for some funky reason, none of my allies have ever attacked the enemy!!
useless SOBs1
in rome u could rely on ur allies to just go all out
nowadays in M2, they just sit there doing squat