Police apologise to Channel 4's over Mosque show

[Carach]

in response to a thread made some time ago by ferrets (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...60&postcount=1)

Well, im happy to announce that the police have (rightfully) apologised to channel 4; that they should never had made allegations of doctoring the programme.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/7401704.stm

So yes, it is pretty much fact now that some of the most 'tolerant' mosques in the UK (as claimed by the highest of government figures themselves) is infact yet another haven of extremist Islam.


so yea... where are the moderates again? Lets take a quote from one of the preachers in ferrets post:

Abu Usamah, one of the preachers from Green Lane Mosque featured in the programme, said he was shocked when he saw himself depicted.

"It was the fact that Green Lane Mosque has a 33-year-old tradition of preaching and teaching the moderate version of Islam"

If the stuff shown in the programme was the moderate version of Islam, i fear for our lives when they start preaching and practising the extreme version (apparently discussing the take over and assimilation of this country isnt extreme enough...among the anti-western, homophobic preaching and so forth also preached..)

*Enter idealistic dreamers flaming carach for being 'racist'

Discuss

[Central Asian Qaghan]

Is Abu Usamah Arab? If one would believe so, it is no suprised that one would go so far as to call the throwing of homosexuals or that women are born difcient. What a patheic man.

[Каие]

Is Abu Usamah Arab? If one would believe so, it is no suprised that one would go so far as to call the throwing of homosexuals or that women are born difcient. What a patheic man.

Because all Arabs think that way don't they. good game.

What are the police supposed to do anyway, can they arrest people now for being homophobic or inciting racism etc.? If they can... why did Nick Griffin get off when he was doing the same thing? Or does this only apply to Muslims?

[Carach]

whats so pathetic is that the police, instead of investigating what the programme had unearthed and doing their jobs, turned on the programme makers instead and accused them of stirring racial hatred.

thats the ing idiotic PC world we live in today.

[Syron]

whats so pathetic is that the police, instead of investigating what the programme had unearthed and doing their jobs, turned on the programme makers instead and accused them of stirring racial hatred.

thats the ing idiotic PC world we live in today.

QFT


I saw this a few days ago, shows how disgustingly pathetic the police are about these issues.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Another blow to the credibility of Londonistan, I mean Moslem England!

[jankren]

Either English government is cowardly or they just want Muslims to be hated even more.

Preachers like this wont even survive in most Muslim countries.

[removeduser_487563287433]

The show was met by certain members of the forum with nothing but hysteria, and this was only a short time after "The Great Global Warming Swindle" on Channel Four had been exposed as massively factually incorrect, so I defend my scepticism as being appropriate.

[Carach]

u know the programme is made by independants, not the same people every time?

[rathelios]

Anyone believe the West Midlands Police will now reopen their investigation into the Muslim preachers featured in the documentary? Will they? Will they bollocks?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Anyone believe the West Midlands Police will now reopen their investigation into the Muslim preachers featured in the documentary? Will they? Will they bollocks?

Oh please the idea of some police conspiracy to favour Islam is simply immature.

[Duke_of_Bavaria]

Oh please the idea of some police conspiracy to favour Islam is simply immature.

The idea that PC stops them from reacting is not however. It's the same here, there was even a documentary about it.

[removeduser_487563287433]

The idea that PC stops them from reacting is not however. It's the same here, there was even a documentary about it.

Yes, it is. The police uphold the law, political correctness does not come into it.

[Duke_of_Bavaria]

Yes, it is. The police uphold the law, political correctness does not come into it.

The show proved you wrong.

[Carach]

Yes, it is. The police uphold the law, political correctness does not come into it.

Yes it does, pretty common knowledge; goes right from their recruitment policies up to their actions ferrets. To believe PC doesnt come into things in a country completely infested with it is simply burying your head in the sand.

No. It didn't.

you seemed to believe the police were completely in the right to accuse channel 4 of inciting racial hatred. Now we have found that the police have apologised and retracted their statement in full; that looks like u were proven wrong to me.

I remember this.

Neo-Nazis in Australia use this as a propaganda tool to encourage violence against Muslims, especially Arabs.

evidence? besides, its lucky then that neo nazis are incredibly rare and are a hunted group themselves that nobody likes.

Their argument isnt entirely flawed though, Sydney at least suffers from an epidemic of rape at the hands of muslims who claim its legal because the women dress like whores..

Culture clash? or more like a clash of times? Medieval vs modern age.

[morteduzionism]

It sounds like legalese to me. Splitting hairs over the subjective meaning of "heavily edited"...

The video inlcuded (at least what I saw/heard) only lasts about 10-20 secs and starts in the middle of a sentence. There's no way to infer any meaning out of it.

[Shaun]

However, Ferrets, you can't deny that the police are slightly influenced in their decisions by political correctness. For example, some silly British Muslims recently accused the police of specifically targeting members of the Islamic community, and fuelling tensions.

[removeduser_487563287433]

However, Ferrets, you can't deny that the police are slightly influenced in their decisions by political correctness. For example, some silly British Muslims recently accused the police of specifically targeting members of the Islamic community, and fuelling tensions.

I do deny that the police are influenced in their upholding of the law by political correctness. That would be an absolute disgrace and I have seen no shred of evidence to support the idea it is happening.

[Shaun]

I do deny that the police are influenced in their upholding of the law by political correctness. That would be an absolute disgrace and I have seen no shred of evidence to support the idea it is happening.

Not upholding the law, but other things. For example, racial targeting is not done at airports even though we know that it is primarily Eastern or North African looking males willing to commit acts of terrorism currently. I believe that those most at risk of radicalisation should be specifically targeted, but some disagree as this is not PC.

No. It didn't.

This depends on whether the police re-open their investigations.

[Каие]

Not upholding the law, but other things. For example, racial targeting is not done at airports even though we know that it is primarily Eastern or North African looking males willing to commit acts of terrorism currently. I believe that those most at risk of radicalisation should be specifically targeted, but some disagree as this is not PC.

When they 'racially' profile people, innocent unlinked men get executed on the tube by 8 shots to the head at point blank range from an Assault rifle from the police.