AI Persian Empire

[Banzai!]

Do the Persians usually build up their empire when controlled by the AI?

I want to play as a Greek faction but there isn't much point if you don't get the whole Xerxes-Freedom standoff.

[Aetius]

No, not usually.

Its usually a contest between Babylon and Lydia. Media controls too poor provinces, Egypt is surrounded, and Persia just causes damage but usually becomes defeated.

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

Tbh I think you're missing out if you're playing only for a Greek vs Persia smackdown. Granted, I once thought the same thing, but you're going to be so busy with your neighbors, it's worth playing as a Greek minor anyway.

[DaVinci]

Do the Persians usually build up their empire when controlled by the AI?

I want to play as a Greek faction but there isn't much point if you don't get the whole Xerxes-Freedom standoff.

Check out my fix thread, you might find something in this direction.

[Forsworn]

Anything that gives the Persians a push to an empire is always good!

[Octavius Vatco]

I think its because of the starting economic standing of the persian faction that is causing it to defeated early on... even if your the one playing it.. its very hard, Im playing persia right now and I cant conquer anything because of the lack of funding and the only army i have cant just leave the territory defenseless and the worse of it all is Mada and Babylon teamed up on me.....

[matricaria]

Not Persian Empire, It is Lydian Empire. in my campaign Lydia has twenty regions and destroyed Persia, Bab İlü, Mada, and İonia. Soon going to destroy Skudata

[Nero666]

It really all depends on where the human player is. If you choose sparta or athens, the northern greek factions will team up against you, but the east will seem more or less stable. If you choose Persia, there will be huge wars in the east but the Greek and barbarian lands above it are fairly stable (until Taras hits ground of course).
Basically the best strategy is to fight with one or two neigbouring factions and ally with the neighbours of those factions, so your neighbours are being fought from two sides. This makes it more difficult for the AI to send lots of fullstacks to you. Also keep some neighbours friendly but don't ever ally with them, they will always stab you in the back.
In my current campaign I'm vs mada and babylon, allied with Lydia, Kemet, Saba, Magadh and still at peace with Baktria. Playing on H/VH and still catching regions of my both enemies all the time. Lydia is warring with Mada and Babylon, Kemet with Babylon.

[persianfan247]

I orginally thought the Persians weren't hard to play as and I was happly conquering the Medians, Bablylonians and Baktians, but then came along the cursed Indian, with those cursed elephants and now i've lost the eastern end of my empire including the Capital. This was the first campaign i've ever done this badly. I'm playing as Athens as well their pretty good. When i first started out it was always a stalemate between me and Sparta. Your more likly to get a huge Athenian empire then a Persian when it should be the other way round.

[Octavius Vatco]

India has medled with my buisness too.... Im still on campaign against both the lydia and babylon and most of my armies are on that front but i left one stack to guard the east front but it was not match for the Elephants and I lost with of a couple of cities, Im able to protect the capital through a full garrison of archers and a large wall. Sometimes the indians are stupid enough to attack directly relaying on their monsters to batter the gates....

The only thing that makes Maghada a hard faction is its elephants, aside that, easy pickings.....

[DaVinci]

Imo., to have an immersive gameplay, Persia needs really signifikant advantages, so that it is overall possible to warry with Persia as player of the more western factions (of course best would be if Persia indeed invades Greece), and as well as a Persian player to get the historical reflected feeling to be the superior nation of that time ( but then stopped by the Hoplite power in Greece ).
Nero knows them already, but all other can look here http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=165079 (post 8) for a few quick balancing things, also and especially for the Greek factions.

[Octavius Vatco]

i hope Persia AI gets updated.. it would be fun......

[Nero666]

The AI itself can't be altered, the only thing that can be done is to give certain factions some advantages, but these will then also count for the player when playing that faction. There are some thing that we càn change, but not a lot.

[Forsworn]

Perhaps making the Persian lands more rich for trade...?

[icydawgfish]

Perhaps scripted armies and money when not playing them. I think it would be cool if you could script them so they would gain territory (historically) until they got to where the player faction was and with scripted armies you could have an all out war.

[Aetius]

Perhaps scripted armies and money when not playing them. I think it would be cool if you could script them so they would gain territory (historically) until they got to where the player faction was and with scripted armies you could have an all out war.

No.

It is good how it is. Persia was a mediocre power, but the likelyhood that Persia was going to conquer the known world was very unlikely in that time. Only though the genuis of Cyrus, and the annexation of the Median Empire did he achieve the formation of the Persian Empire.

Most of his soldiers were actually actually Medes. To outsiders it wasn't the Persian Empire, but the Median Empire with a usurper persian King.