EU warns/threatens Myanmar with UN etc. action

[christof139]

The EU, the Etheral Union, has warned/threatened Myanmar with UN and possibly other action if the Government of Myanmar is not more cooperative with aid efforts.

Will the EU attempt osme form of financial action, military action, an embargo of goods other than food, clothing and medical etc. supplies??

what will happen??

Chris

[Chaigidel]

good on the EU , time to start showing you have some power.

[TRSjarmen]

I love it, they have to threaten a country so they will accept and cooperate with aid. Just let them be if they are gunna be a problem imo.

[Admiral Nelson]

I love it, they have to threaten a country so they will accept and cooperate with aid. Just let them be if they are gunna be a problem imo.

The problem is that the military Junta, which controls Myanmar, isn't in need of foreign aid- it is the Burmese people who live under the oppressive regime that are in real trouble.

If we were to just "let them be," then tens of thousands more could die.

[Mythos]

Finally. A case where force (or the threat of force) will be used for helping people.

[danzig]

Finally. A case where force (or the threat of force) will be used for helping people.

Yeah Ill put faith in that when EU announced air craft carriers are on the way to Myanmar and EU "peacekeepers" are preparing to enter the country. Besides China and Russia can just veto it. Actions speak louder then words and Im sorry with all do respect to our friendly european posters on mudpit the EU has yet to show it isnt all bark and no bite.

[wilting]

What a silly thread.

As Op didn't provide link I shall provide what I found via Google:

With concern mounting that the number of victims of Myanmar's devastating cyclone could multiply unless the country's leaders allow more aid to enter, the EU's foreign policy chief on 13 May called on the international community to “use all ... means” to ensure that aid is delivered more rapidly.
Speaking before an emergency meeting of EU ministers in Brussels, Javier Solana aired the possibility of UN-sanctioned intervention if Myanmar's military rulers do not ease access for international aid organisations, saying that “the United Nations charter opens some avenues if things cannot be resolved in order to get the humanitarian aid to arrive”.


In another example of the regime's reluctance to open its doors, the EU's development and aid commissioner, Louis Michel, has yet to be granted a visa to enter Myanmar.
Michel nonetheless set off for Asia immediately after the ministerial meeting in Brussels, saying he would wait in Bangkok until he received a response from the government in Pyinmana, Myanmar's new capital.
The EU's Council of Minister called on Myanmar to give “free and unfettered access” to foreign aid agencies and discussed ways of better coordinating EU action in the disaster-stricken country.

Comments here about how the EU won't use force say more about the poster's attitudes and knowledge of the EU that it does about the EU or the particular story.

There is no such threat to be backed up, merely a suggestion of UN action.

[danzig]

Comments here about how the EU won't use force say more about the poster's attitudes and knowledge of the EU that it does about the EU or the particular story.

There is no such threat to be backed up, merely a suggestion of UN action.

Which is akin to "im gonna tell mom on you"...the UN hasnt be able to act on Myanmar during the whole junta thing why would now be any exception? The disaster has already spiraled out of country, too little (to the point of nothing) too late. Yeah propose the UN act...great there goes another 6 months of debates, resolutions, counter resolutions who knows maybe there will still be a few people left alive where the cyclone hit.

[Exarch]

Which is akin to "im gonna tell mom on you"...the UN hasnt be able to act on Myanmar during the whole junta thing why would now be any exception? The disaster has already spiraled out of country, too little (to the point of nothing) too late. Yeah propose the UN act...great there goes another 6 months of debates, resolutions, counter resolutions who knows maybe there will still be a few people left alive where the cyclone hit.

do u propose invading a sovereign nation?

[christof139]

If force is used innocent people will be affected and also die.

Force has been used previously to help people, remember WWII etc.

Chris

[Trey]

I've heard of spending money to make money,
but killing people to save people? Interesting.

[Caelius]

I find it hilarious that ppl actually believe the EU is going to back up it's tough talk with any meaningful action.

The US on the other hand is doing 24 hour air drops and even has an Expeditionary Strike Group steaming for Burma with Marines stocking up on water and medical supplies.

[christof139]

I've heard of spending money to make money,
but killing people to save people? Interesting.

Nazis had to be killed to save and free Europe during WWII and Imperial japanese forces had to be killed in order to free and save China during WWII etc.

But attacking Myanmar would be a big mistake and so would an embargo so not anyhting will be done.

Chris

[roy34543]

The EU and UN wont do anything. Myanmar has far too many nations as allies that will veto any decision (Arms deals mostly)

[Farnan]

Well they are accepting limited US aid

US pilots who flew aid to Myanmar get virtual hero's welcome
14 hours ago

UTAPAO AIR BASE, Thailand — Flying into Yangon, U.S. marine Cpl. Bryan Hampson looked out the windows of his C-130 cargo plane at an expanse of marshland covered with a thick, brown blanket of water.

As the plane broke through the clouds, the crew members didn't know what to expect. His flight Tuesday was only the second one that Myanmar's military junta - often hostile and suspicious of outside interference - had allowed the U.S. military to fly into the cyclone-devastated country.

What awaited was virtually a hero's welcome.

"They kept telling us thank you and shaking our hands," he said of the 40 Myanmar people who unloaded by hand the 9,000 kilograms of emergency supplies on board. "They were really friendly toward us. They were excited to see us."

After strong appeals from Washington, Myanmar allowed the second and third U.S. military flights in on Tuesday and appeared to be willing to accept more, said marine Lt.-Col. Douglas Powell.

Powell said the first flight Tuesday carried blankets, water and mosquito nets. The second took in an 11,200-kilogram load. The two flights came after Myanmar allowed a U.S. air force C-130 cargo plane into Yangon, its main city, on Monday.

"They were very polite, very professional," Capt. Mark Hamilton, the pilot of Tuesday's first flight, said of the Myanmar officials who met the plane.

A Myanmar air force officer even came aboard the plane and took snapshots of the cockpit, he said.

"But the military mostly stood off to the side," Hamilton added.

He described the Yangon airport as being in good condition. "They could fit quite a few large planes in there," he said. "The only issue is the offload."

Powell said a Boeing 747 aircraft arrived at Utapao Airbase in Thailand on Monday night to replenish the supplies available to fly in to Myanmar. Though the flights are military, the aid aboard them is being provided by civilian relief authorities.

The U.S. has pushed hard for the junta to let U.S. troops play a big role in relief operations in the aftermath of the cyclone, which has killed tens of thousands and severely affected an estimated two million people.

The U.S. military, which already has forces in the region for its annual Cobra Gold exercise, has 11,000 troops, at least four ships and potentially dozens of cargo planes nearby that are ready to start assistance operations.

Admiral Timothy Keating, commander of U.S. Pacific Forces, flew into Myanmar on the initial aid flight Monday to try to persuade the junta to relent.

Keating said the U.S. military could provide 90,000 kilograms of supplies a day, which would be a massive boost to the lagging relief efforts. The military could also ferry aid workers to the hardest-hit regions, which remain hard to reach.

But Myanmar state television said navy commander in chief, Rear Admiral Soe Thein told Keating that basic needs of the storm victims are being fulfilled and that "skilful humanitarian workers are not necessary."

The operation, named Joint Task Force Caring Relief, will not go ahead without the approval of Myanmar's military rulers, who have so far refused a broad range of help offers because they fear foreign meddling in their domestic affairs.

That stance - as bodies remain scattered around the countryside and hundreds of thousands of refugees are in need of food and shelter - has generated howls of criticism from around the world.

"I wish their government would accept our aid more than they have already," said Hampson. "We'll come in and give them the aid they need to help their people, then we'll leave."

http://canadianpress.google.com/arti...4MNrgIPdqzHAPg

[Exarch]

the EU havent the stomach for war
they'd much rather make love with their faces than fight

[ivan_the_terrible]

The EU is not going to take military action.
Nor should it, at this stage. In the wake of one of the biggest natural disasters of recent times, hundreds of thousands of people are on the brink of death as it is. I cant even begin to imagine what kind of carnage is going to ensue if there was military action right now.

Than Shwe and co are asbolute evil bastards, and dont care how many people die as long as they stay in power, which is precisely why military intervention now would be so catastrophic.

Priority no.1 should be getting as much aid as possible to victims there. Though the junta is delaying this process, I fear the west has no sensible choice except to stay patient and passive. At least for the moment, to prevent any further deaths.

PS,
I prefer to call it Burma, since the word Myanmar is historically formal, but recently entirely associated with the junta govt.

[Каие]

I'm sorry what's the UN going to do?

[christof139]

Pick their noses and shake their fingers. Chris

[Carach]

u like this term 'threaten' dont u chris...

The difference between threaten, suggest and warn are massive when it comes to politics/global politics. Stop throwing around terms willy nilly please, its getting irritating.