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    Default RELEASED: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod v0.66

    Version 0.66 will include:
    + Patch

    Download here: http://files.filefront.com/Firebats+.../fileinfo.html


    ***** I have found some bugs. Please download the patch. This will remove the enormus build time for some units. They are ALL back to 1 turn per unit.

    Download the attached export_descr_unit.txt at the end of the post.

    Place in: C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data


    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    - Version 0.66 will NOT be for use with Real Recruitment.
    - This release will focus on the levy units from Prussia which fought for the order over the centuries.
    - Have received confirmation from y2day. Teutonic Units Cards are included in this release!
    (Thanks y2day!!)




    Notable features are:

    Removed:

    Teutonic Knights & Dismounted Teutonic Knights
    Baltic Spearmen (still there for Lithuania)
    Clergymen
    Order Militia
    Spear Militia (for teutonic order, still exists for all other factions)

    Replaced with:

    Prussian Axemen



    Prussian Axemen upgrade 1



    Prussian Levy Spearmen




    Prussian levy Spearmen upgrade 1




    Prussian Swordsmen (textures to get fixed for release, plus no yellow shields, this was just for testing).




    Knetchen (skin change) (upgrade 1)



    Prussian Auxilliary cavalry
    Thanks goes to Caesar Clivus for the use of his model.



    Actual Battle, no Photoshop enhancement


    Bug fixes!!!!

    Including lance texture fix!






    Download here: http://files.filefront.com/Firebats+.../fileinfo.html



    For v0.5 (still available to download)
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Version 0.5 Beta includes:


    See bottom of post for installation instructions.



    This mod aims to remove the 'fantasy' style units, and replace them with more historically accurate units.

    Units unchanged:
    Ritterbrudder
    Halbrudder
    Burgher Pikemen

    Units removed:
    Order Clergy

    New Units:

    MitBrudern (Lay Knights) - To replace Christ Knights

    Description

    Nobility that held land granted to them by the Order. These Nobles were almost always German though some of the border families were Polish in origin. As with much of Europe the holding of land imposed certain duties on the holder. In the case of land granted by the Order the amount defined the service. A surviving Order document relating to land holdings in Chelmno, dated 1223 provides information on two main types of service, The Rossdienst and the Platendienst. The Rossdienst was anyone holding over 40 Ian (also called a Hufen) was expected to muster a horseman in full armour with a barded steed along with two retainers, this forming the traditional German Lance.



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    Baltic Spearmen - only available in v0.5 release



    Native troops
    The Order recruited large numbers of native troops to serve with their armies. These contingents were invariably lightly equipped and the least effective of the Order's soldiers. They were however abundant and provided the bulk of the army and as often as not took the brunt of the casualties as well. The quality of these troops was also highly variable. The Border provinces of the Livonian territories provided an enthusiastic levy for the Order as they were usually employed to fight their traditional enemies the Estonians. The long held Prussian Provinces tended to provide the least effective levy, presumably as their fighting spirit had long been crushed by Order control. It was the provinces that bordered Lithuania and Poland that produced the best native troops and also the most revolts.

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    DiendeBrudern – to replace dismounted Halbrudder


    These Brothers were those not of Noble birth. Their military role was either as lesser men at arms forming the rear ranks to the RitterBrudern and HalbBrudern or as infantry.

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    Order Spearmen – ‘Well Armed Men’

    The term used by Jan Dlugosz to describe some 6,000 infantry present at Tannenberg. They appear to have been a mix of armoured spearmen and Crossbowmen and were led by Brethren Officers. These units like their mounted counterparts were a mix of Mercenaries, Order foot, Vassal foot and City militias. They probably differed little from their German counterparts.




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    Crusader Sergeants



    Volunteers, Crusaders and Adventurers
    Prior to 1400 the Order was able to recruit large numbers of volunteers for its campaigns. These volunteers were mostly German however some Grandees of European Nobility also took part. Henry Bolingbroke (later Henry IV) of England for instance campaigned twice in Prussia in the 1390's. These volunteers served for a variety of reasons, some to fulfil crusading vows, others for prestige and many for loot.
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    General's Bodyguard



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    Teutonic Knights & Dismounted Teutonic Knights - only available in v0.5 release




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    Spear Militia - only available in v0.5 release


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    Roster










    Big thanks goes to Caesar Clivus for all his help in this mod. We are currently discussing the possibility of combining our mods, however no confirmation at this time.

    Thanks,

    As for right now, Real recruitment is required. I will be releasing a non-real recruitment version soon.


    Required: SSTC + Master Zuma's Fort Mod

    Order of Installation:

    1) SS 6.0 (part 1 & 2)

    2) SS 6.1 patch
    (Byg III patch here http://www.twcenter.net/forums/attac...1&d=1209996911)

    3) SSTC 1.0
    http://files.filefront.com/Stainless.../fileinfo.html

    4) SSTC 1.2 patch
    http://files.filefront.com/SSTC+Patc.../fileinfo.html

    5) New Real Recruitment Files
    http://files.filefront.com/SSTC+Patc.../fileinfo.html

    6) SSTC Hotfix
    http://files.filefront.com/SSTC+Hotf.../fileinfo.html

    7) Master Zuma's Stone Forts Mod
    http://files.filefront.com/Stone+for.../fileinfo.html

    8) FIREBAT's Teutonic Order Enhancement mod v0.5
    http://files.filefront.com/Firebats+.../fileinfo.html

    AS THIS IS A BETA, PLEASE BACKUP YOUR DATA FIRST.
    Last edited by Firebat11; June 17, 2008 at 08:02 PM.
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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Looks very good, the TO could use some TLC

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Hey if you would like me to make unit info cards for new units let me know. Would be glad to help out. I plan to do the TO as soon as I'm done with Genoa anyway.



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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Unit cards aren't really a big deal since we have one's built from KK.

    But it would still be nice though. If you have any other ideas for other units, please let me know.
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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebat11 View Post
    Unit cards aren't really a big deal since we have one's built from KK.

    But it would still be nice though. If you have any other ideas for other units, please let me know.

    Well i figured when you release you could include new unit cards, because currently TO unit cards are from vanilla kingdoms. If you add units from crusades or other factions then some may have unit cards that akvilonn made for SS, but some may not, i was just offering.

    That goes for anyone that is reskinning or creating new units. I would be glad to help out with unit cards, reskinning, faction symbols.....




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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Are you sure they are vanilla ones?

    On my PC I have the ones that are in the database here:
    http://totalwar.honga.net/faction_un...teutonic_order

    But hey, if you can come up with some nifty new ones I'll take the help!! Thanks!!
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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Sorry for the confusion. Not the small unit cards, the Unit Info Cards like the ones here. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=164061 .
    I just finished up Portugal.
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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Oh those!! Yes please!!!
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    Are you going to make any new units or just change the names?

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    The "pre-made" units are similar to the actual units of the order. I am still doing research on the subject and would be happy to accept any and all suggestions for new units.
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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    That looks awesome Firebat. I was considering doing a roster review for the TO but I'm glad to see someone is working on this

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    Sounds awesome! Hope to see this released soon.
    Will it be compitable with SSTC and RR?

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    Yes.

    Caesar and I are trying to figure out what going wrong with some modelling.

    Once that problem is fixed...then I have a lot of modding to do. I'll keep updating though.
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    yay, i hate that clergymen, good luck doing this.

    I wish someone think about doing a roster review for the cumans, because i like the idea of the cumans, but i dont like their roster.

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    Default Re: PREVIEW: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod

    The TO had good militia and very uber castle units with small pool,you should not just give them local milita the TO trained and equipped the locals better.
    A few suggestions:
    -the clergymen should be changed to to a militia zweihandler or something more historical if this doesn`t fit in,a 2h weapon unit
    -Order militia should get buffed to swordsmen militia or higher
    -a spear unit comparable with the italian spear militia or higher
    -levy spearmen unit for the TO recrutable in towns and castles
    -Order Spearmen should get buffed up and should be recruted form a fortress and higher and only 3 of them recrutable at once
    -dism. Halbbruder should get a 2h polearm and get buffed up to dism. french nobles,someone claimed the halebard it`s a peasant weapon
    -Halbbruder and dism. Halbbruder only 3 recrutale of each at once
    -Sword brethren should be equal with a dism feudal knight ,with 1 less armor point because they have 2 armuor upgrades
    -ritterbruder and dism ritterbruder only 2 of each recrutable at once

    Make a version compadible with sstc+raj(is part of sstc optional instalation) without RR please
    I hope you release it fast

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    Default Re: RELEASED: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod v0.5 Beta

    Any chance of getting a version that doesn't require SSTC? I do use RR, but not SSTC and don't want to have to install that just to get your submod.
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    Default Re: RELEASED: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod v0.5 Beta

    It is a possibility that I might make a non- SSTC version.

    One question: why don't you use SSTC??

    The addition of new captains and models, what's wrong with that?
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    Default Re: RELEASED: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod v0.5 Beta

    Nothing "wrong" with it. I just like to get a feel for the balance of the base mod before changing too many things. Otherwise how will I know if the changes are "better" for my playing style?

    Anyway, thanks for considering my request.
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    Default Re: RELEASED: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod v0.5 Beta

    Only balance change in SSTC is that spearmen are a bit stronger. Which is another reason why its so good, it keeps balance virtually unchanged.

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    Default Re: RELEASED: Firebat's Teutonic Order Mod v0.5 Beta

    Great idea to add teutonic knights to the Teutonic Order. Why has no one done that yet? But here lies the problem with Caesar's mod. He removed teutonic knights from the game. Don't let him win Firebat.
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