Barbarian clone weapons?

**Roman Legate** · May 12, 2008, 08:49 PM

Well, this question has nothing to do with the romani faction, but it might be cool to see with other factions (barbarian and others) multiple weapon types for a single unit. Im not sure it is hardcoded or not but, you can change the peoples skins, why not the weapons? I dont mean a unit with one person having a sword and another having a spear, but different sword types, mabe three to four types per unit, it would add some cool visual effects to the game!

Another question, will the roman units be using a thrusting attack or a slashing attack. the romans where trained to thrust their weapons, not slash with them.

Thanks

**Ahiga** · May 12, 2008, 09:42 PM

You can certainly have different weapon variants, such as different variations of swords. You can also have different weapon types, but all the unit uses the same animations. So spear + sword wouldn't work, but axe and sword might.

**Roman Legate** · May 12, 2008, 10:22 PM

So do you think that the use of multiple weapons will be used?

**Foot** · May 13, 2008, 03:00 AM

Where different there are different weapons types in the archaelogical record we will endeavour to include them. However we have to be wary about stats so we won't have a great-sword and a short-sword in the same unit. Basically where there can be variation we will have it.

Foot

**Roman Legate** · May 13, 2008, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Foot

Where different there are different weapons types in the archaelogical record we will endeavour to include them. However we have to be wary about stats so we won't have a great-sword and a short-sword in the same unit. Basically where there can be variation we will have it.

Foot

Didnt barbarians provide their own weapons? And wouldn't that mean different warriors had different weapons?

**Foot** · May 14, 2008, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by Roman Legate

Didnt barbarians provide their own weapons? And wouldn't that mean different warriors had different weapons?

Didn't I just say there would be variation, but they wouldn't have put a guy with a great big sword next to a guy with a small dagger in the same group. They may be "barbarians" but they aren't stupid. Besides as I mentioned we have to worry about stats.

Foot

**Roman Legate** · May 13, 2008, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Roman Legate

Another question, will the roman units be using a thrusting attack or a slashing attack. the romans where trained to thrust their weapons, not slash with them.

Will the Romans use a thrusting attack or a slashing attack? Will barbaric tribes use a slashing or thrusting attack? From what I know, romans where trained to use thrusting attacks while the barbaric tribes used a more of a slashing movement.

**Kennylz** · May 20, 2008, 07:07 PM

Nearly every decent mod dabbles in weapon mixtures in units, so I don't see any reason why the EB team wouldn't want to do it too, especially for the barbarians.

I think it is one of the better features that MTW2 allows for this mod.

**beatoangelico** · May 20, 2008, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Kennylz

Nearly every decent mod dabbles in weapon mixtures in units, so I don't see any reason why the EB team wouldn't want to do it too, especially for the barbarians.

I think it is one of the better features that MTW2 allows for this mod.

unit stats perhaps?

Foot has already explained everything.

**Manco** · May 20, 2008, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by beatoangelico

unit stats perhaps?

Foot has already explained everything.

different weapon models in the same class maybe?

Or did you think every long sword looked exactly the same...

**beatoangelico** · May 20, 2008, 07:53 PM

mixing weapons is a thing, have variations of the same weapon is another

**Antiochos VII Sidetes** · May 20, 2008, 08:26 PM

I think that there should be SOME variation, at any rate. Playing as barbarian factions in RTW always made me angry because i don't think tribal warbands had that level of conformity...

By the way, good smiley beatoangelico...

**eggthief** · May 21, 2008, 03:27 PM

are they gonna create different varations for one unit slot then? In BC the Makurians have a unit that uses 2h swords, some of them being straight and others slightly more shaped like a sabre.

**Roman Legate** · May 21, 2008, 08:13 PM

Foot has already explained everything. The most they can do is make the same weapon class, but different textures for them. Think of them like coat of arms in the regular M2TW.

**Kennylz** · May 23, 2008, 11:55 PM

I never said anything about using two handed axes and short swords in the same unit. Weapon mixtures would be different weapons of the same class in the same unit. I've seen it done before, I've seen it done often, and I've seen it done successfully.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · May 24, 2008, 04:49 PM

Having different looking weapons from the same type of weapon seems like something that will be done as long is it is within the ability of the model/skin variation of the engine.

**Juggernaut** · June 01, 2008, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

Having different looking weapons from the same type of weapon seems like something that will be done as long is it is within the ability of the model/skin variation of the engine.

Well, peasants in vanilla M2TW has 3 models for their pitchforks(2,3, and 4 points) so it's definitely possible to do it.

**TWoxy** · June 01, 2008, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kennylz

I never said anything about using two handed axes and short swords in the same unit. Weapon mixtures would be different weapons of the same class in the same unit. I've seen it done before, I've seen it done often, and I've seen it done successfully.

http://static3.filefront.com/images/...kypsocvawq.jpg

Look at the infantry on the right-hand side of the screenshot; they have swords and hand axes. Thought I would just post that to illustrate your point, Kennylz.