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    Default Most Historically inaccurate movie

    I have to go with Jesus Christ: Superstar:



    I didn't know they had the following in 1st Century Palestine:

    • Machineguns
    • 20th Century ammo boxes
    • grenades
    • Australian "cowboy" hats
    • Pantyhose
    • Women that dressed like 20th Century Americans
    • A Black Judas
    • Roman Soldiers with AK-47s
    • Transvestites
    • Post Cards
    • Plastic
    • Rotating rack things
    • Looks like pre-Euro European money
    • Tanks (different Scene)
    • Aircraft (different scene)
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    History of The World Part One.
    I love Sweaty Pudding.

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    Default Re: Most Historically inaccurate movie

    Maybe, just maybe, that's intentional

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Super Pope View Post
    Maybe, just maybe, that's intentional
    I know, and I love it to!
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    Default Re: Most Historically inaccurate movie

    Jesus Christ Superstar isn't meant to be historical either, it is a modern artist's impression of events, so it isn't historically inaccurate, since accuracy isn't even a goal.

    For something to be historically inaccurate, it would have to state that its purpose is realistic depiction of actual events, to which it would do injustice. See Alexander, for example.

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    Last Legion

    Gladiator

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    Last Legion was just dumb.
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    I'm the first to say


    U571


    After a whole 8 posts. Standards are slipping



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    Quote Originally Posted by shadepanther View Post
    I'm the first to say


    U571


    After a whole 8 posts. Standards are slipping
    It's not because standards are slipping. It's because we like aggravating the brits.
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    Demolition Man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaius valerius View Post
    Demolition Man...
    With Sylvester Stallone? Nice...

    How about Star Wars? It says right off that it happened a long time ago... but then again i guess we'll never know...

    And Indiana Jones? That was like, what, the 30's? I guess The Mummy would fall under that too, then.

    I'll leave 10,000 BC, The Last Samurai and Grease for the other members here...

    Oh, and I haven't seen Jesus Christ Superstar (actually, I haven't seen the Last Samurai either...) but there would have been a few Tranvestites in Jesus's time. No transgender, but transvestites for sure...

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    Kelly's Heroes is one of my favourite films but certainly isn't accurate. Got to love the idea of hippies during the war. Woof Woof.

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    Then there's Braveheart.
    I think Williams plaid made me think of that...
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    Schindler's List.

    I make a joke. the holocaust happened.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lector V View Post
    Then there's Braveheart.
    I think Williams plaid made me think of that...
    Aaahhhh Braveheart. The battle of Stirling Bridge with no bridge in sight, the miracle multiple year gestation period that Edward III's mother lived through and most importantly of all the fact that they got the name wrong (It was de Bruce who was originally called Braveheart.)

    Bloody good film though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William the Bastard View Post
    Kelly's Heroes is one of my favourite films but certainly isn't accurate. Got to love the idea of hippies during the war. Woof Woof.
    Actually, Kelly's heros is based on a true incident, and he Americans and german troops involved got away with the gold and the gaold ws never recovered as far as I know and no one ws charged since it wasn't known exactly who stold the gold except for the fact that it was American troops leading the advance of Patton's 3rd Army I do believe and some German troops. I love it. Good for them. They deserved some extra pay.

    I think during the battle of Hue during 1968 Tet Offensive, some US Marines blew the National Bank Of Vietnam (or whatever it wa called) and its vault aprt with a M-48 tank's 90mm main gun. I believe they were caught and the money was retruned, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaius valerius View Post
    Demolition Man...
    hehhe,

    back to the future...

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    The Attila Miniseries

    something that I've got from wiki

    • There is no evidence that Attila ever spent time in Rome, although Aetius was a hostage for a time among the Huns.
    • The Romans are portrayed in standard Hollywood terms, decadent pagan orgies and all - whereas in reality by this stage they had converted to a particularly stern and moralistic Christianity.
    • The film depicts the Battle of Chalons as the last major campaign of Attila's career, entirely omitting his campaign the following year in Italy, during which he very nearly sacked Rome but stopped just shy of Rome for reasons that are currently unknown, but under heavy debate.
    • Attila's first wife, N'kara, is entirely fictional as is the daughter of Aetius/Theodoric - although the fact that Attila had adult sons by his death does suggest that he had been married before - perhaps many times. Aetius however did have a son named Gaudentius
    • Some historians contend that the Huns were of Turco-Mongol descent, as opposed to Indo-European as portrayed here - others however now discount any connection with the Mongolian Hsiung-nu and point out that whatever their original point of origin, by Attila's time they had heavily intermarried with western tribes. In fact at least one Hun in the film (Bleda) is made up to look 'mongoloid' - although oddly his father (Rua) is not.
    • The Roman helmets that appear here are the classical Roman helmets although they had in reality abandoned this armor for the more cost efficient Coolus Helmet
    • The Roman shields and weapons resemble that of the early empire instead of the late.
    • Both Roman and Hun riders use stirrups which were not introduced into Europe until several centuries later.
    • Virtually all the swords shown in the film are much too short - in fact virtually every army in the period used some variant of the spatha or longsword as this gave a much longer reach used from horseback.
    • The siege engines used by the Huns are clearly trebuchets operated by counterweights which did not reach Europe until centuries after Attila - rather they should have been torsion-powered catapults.
    • The Roman Emperor Valentinian III is depicted as childish, decadent and idiotic, while in truth he probably was a mature but incompetent ruler.
    • Galla Placidia was dead by the time Valentinian murdered Aetius.
    • There are no records that back up the notion that Theodoric and Aetius shared the same wife.
    • The Roman Army's uniforms are anachronisms by the time of the 5th century.
    • Aetius' depiction in the film as a sinister anti-hero is almost fictional. Although he was ambitious he was probably a more noble and honorable man in character.
    • As with many films portraying the waning days of the Roman Empire, the capitol city in the movie is Rome, when in fact the capitol had moved to Ravenna by the time period portrayed in the film.
    • While Theodoric was killed in the battle, the perpetrator was either an anonymous Hun, or possibly Andag, an ambitious fellow Goth. There are no historians who support a Roman conspiracy theory for his death.
    • Atilla did not kill Bleda immediately after their uncle's death. In fact they were co-rulers for 11 years, before Bleda died under mysterious circumstances. While its speculated that Atilla did murder his brother, it was certainly not done in a public challenge.

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    I'm the first to say


    U571


    After a whole 8 posts. Standards are slipping
    i thought it instantly, i just couldn't post till now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan View Post
    I have to go with Jesus Christ: Superstar:


    I didn't know they had the following in 1st Century Palestine:

    • Machineguns
    • 20th Century ammo boxes
    • grenades
    • Australian "cowboy" hats
    • Pantyhose
    • Women that dressed like 20th Century Americans
    • A Black Judas
    • Roman Soldiers with AK-47s
    • Transvestites
    • Post Cards
    • Plastic
    • Rotating rack things
    • Looks like pre-Euro European money
    • Tanks (different Scene)
    • Aircraft (different scene)
    Hmm...but I would say 300 you would say thats a comic book!
    Well this is a rock opera, not a historical film. In most historical films ppl dont sing you know, especially not to rock music.
    The film makers tried to show that world wasnt different back then, and tried to show that USA in the 70's and ancient Jerusalem and its world are alike...I mean in sins.

    I dont think you have a point here.
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