First Age: Total War

[Glorfindel]

it's more a proposal/suggestion for modders


i think that third age (and fourth because they are kind of similar Tolkien-eras) have a lot of strategy games that are devoted to them (total war mods and Battle for Middle Earth)

the point is that the heroic battles of the first age (where the high elves had huge armies) exist only in Tolkien' s books and our imagination

what i' m saying is that "if anyone turned medieval 2: total war into a First Age: Total War/ Beleriand: Total War/ Silmarillion: Total War mod would be SOOOOOO COOOOOOL!!!"

that's my piont of view...

i think that a lot of people out there agree with me...

may my wish come true some day

[Comrade the Colonel]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117355

[Malchus]

That would be interesting if some one changed medieval2 total war into a lord of the rings game.

[deathmaw]

well many people are doing it but the problem with the first age is custom buildings

[Lunes]

I don't see what your saying Deathmaw. The First Age would require the same custom buildings that Third Age would need to look great. Any Lord of the Rings mod will be troubled by the lack of customizable buildings. With the First Age you don't have to deal with people that are looking for the movies in-game form. Good luck mates!

[Glorfindel]

i think that first age provides more exciting events than the third... (the second too, with numenor and noldor kingdoms)

you could do crusade sort of things (for the silmarils) and recruit holy units (from valinor with Maiar and Vanyar)

the High Elves would have huge number of soldiers, the other Elves too..

Balrogs and Dragons would be awesome!

humans and Dwarfs fought at that period too...

late in the game the army of Valinor could spawn in morgoth' s territory like Mongols/Timurids

that's what i' m talking about...anyone who have read Silmarillion will understand...

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Well I think it's impossiable to make Dragons in M2TW... even you must have them if you want to portray the first age...
Balrogs however might be possiable:hmmm:

[silverarmon]

actually i think the dragons did not had wings in the first age. as i remember only the one in "hobbit" ( GOD i don't remember its name) was mentioned to have a pair of them.....

[Hardrada992]

Smaug.
I think the dragon that Turin fought had wings... or could fly magically

[Gampie]

Well I think it's impossiable to make Dragons in M2TW... even you must have them if you want to portray the first age...

Ever seen this?

[Lebre]

Ever seen this?

one thing that intrigues me is that i've never seen them flap their wings :hmmm:

[deathmaw]

there are three three kinds of dragons one that breath fire ones that crawl and ones that fly all three were in the first age
and dragons are possible to create

[I Am Herenow]

Whoa! Which mod's that?

[Nakharar]

Wow that can actualy make a star wars and a Modern mod work

[deathmaw]

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT

[Comrade the Colonel]

There we go!

[deathmaw]

SO COOL

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

OK, just to clear things out, here's the wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_(Middle-earth)

Tolkien designed his own taxonomic system for dragons, based on locomotion and fire-breathing.
Some dragons (Glaurung) walked on four legs, like Komodo dragons or other lizards. Other dragons (Ancalagon, Smaug) could both walk on four legs and fly using wings. Winged-dragons were only first witnessed during the War of Wrath, the battle that ended the First Age, so all dragons seen before the end of the First Age could not fly (such as Glaurung), although breeds of wingless dragons did exist.
Dragons who could breathe fire were called Urulóki (singular Urulokë), "Fire-drakes". It is not entirely clear whether the term "Urulóki" referred only to the first dragons such as Glaurung that could breathe fire but were wingless, or to any dragon that could breathe fire, and thus include Smaug. In Appendix A of The Lord of the Rings Tolkien mentions a "Cold-drake". It is commonly assumed, though not directly stated, that this term indicated a dragon which could not breathe fire, rather than one who "breathed" ice or snow like the White Dragons of Dungeons & Dragons. Further, Tolkien calls a fire-breathing dragon in the non-Middle-earth story Farmer Giles of Ham a "hot" one.

More important is the design of the dragons. In tolkien's world the dragons called "the long-worms" as they were more serpent-like rather than the D&D dragons seen above. Here's some pics:


IMHO it's essential that dragons of this type will be in the mod. (if there will ever be a mod, that is).

[Glorfindel]

i have some suggestion for a First Age: Total War

FACTIONS
->House of Fingolfin(maybe a sub-faction like Gondolin, because Gondolin was not affected after Nirnaeth Arnoediad)
->House of Finarfin(maybe a sub-faction like Nargothrond)
->House of Feanor
->Realm of Doriath
->Men of the West(the three houses of the Edain)
->Men of the East
->Morgoth (maybe a sub-faction like Sauron, because Sauron was not destroyed after Morgoth's defeat)

[deathmaw]

nice but not Men of the East more like Edain