Marrying inside the family tree...

[GuineaPig]

Was this taken out of SS 6.0? Because, creepiness aside, I always found it an easy way to provide my male family members with high quality wives, especially since later in the games the tendency for family members to not marry in their lifetime. Is there any way I can change this feature back?

[OG Grenadier]

Not possible. Hard coded this time around I believe. Never seen the ability to marry off siblings in SS.

[Maurice Tiberius]

Not possible. Hard coded this time around I believe. Never seen the ability to marry off siblings in SS.

Siblings, yes, cousins, no.

[GuineaPig]

Not possible. Hard coded this time around I believe. Never seen the ability to marry off siblings in SS.

I was always able to marry a princess to another person of my family tree as long as they weren't brother and sister. Now I can't marry my princesses to anyone within the family tree.

[Naked Emperor]

I always marry my princessess to their cousins. My motto is -keep it in the family-. I tend to play dynasty games where no one gets adopted and no one marries into the royal family. I wouldn't want any usurper to claim the throne.

[GuineaPig]

I always marry my princessess to their cousins. My motto is -keep it in the family-. I tend to play dynasty games where no one gets adopted and no one marries into the royal family. I wouldn't want any usurper to claim the throne.

My point is, I don't think you can do that (or at least I can't, playing as France in the Late Campaign) in 6.1.

Maybe I should see if it works with another faction.

[strife1013]

I always marry my princessess to their cousins. My motto is -keep it in the family-. I tend to play dynasty games where no one gets adopted and no one marries into the royal family. I wouldn't want any usurper to claim the throne.

Do you get any bad traits?

[Naked Emperor]

Do you get any bad traits?

No, I get decent enough traits. It's not like in MTW when you married your princess to her brother and got a inbred family. I don't think there are any triggers for it in the traits file.

[Aldwen]

It's not like in MTW when you married your princess to her brother and got a inbred family. I don't think there are any triggers for it in the traits file.

Yeah actually there are.

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Trait Inbred
Characters family
NoGoingBackLevel 1

Level A_Bit_Odd
Description A_Bit_Odd_desc
EffectsDescription A_Bit_Odd_effects_desc
Threshold 1

Effect Fertility -1

Level Of_Dubious_Lineage
Description Of_Dubious_Lineage_desc
EffectsDescription Of_Dubious_Lineage_effects_desc
Threshold 2

Effect Fertility -2

Level Inbred
Description Inbred_desc
EffectsDescription Inbred_effects_desc
Threshold 3

Effect Command -1
Effect TaxCollection -2
Effect Fertility -3

Level Woefully_Inbred
Description Woefully_Inbred_desc
EffectsDescription Woefully_Inbred_effects_desc
Threshold 4

Effect Command -1
Effect Authority -1
Effect TaxCollection -5
Effect Fertility -4

Level Spawn_of_Incest
Description Spawn_of_Incest_desc
EffectsDescription Spawn_of_Incest_effects_desc
Threshold 5

Effect Command -2
Effect Authority -2
Effect TaxCollection -10
Effect Fertility -5

Level Betrothed_to_Mother
Description Betrothed_to_Mother_desc
EffectsDescription Betrothed_to_Mother_effects_desc
Epithet Betrothed_to_Mother_epithet_desc
Threshold 6

Effect Command -3
Effect Authority -3
Effect TaxCollection -15

Not sure how exactly the triggers work for setting that nasty chain of events off but there are both traits and triggers.

So... uhh, I guess watch who you marry

[mangoo-]

How do you know who you are marrying of to? Like I can't tell if France is coming to marry off my daughter, or an inside of the family.

[GuineaPig]

How do you know who you are marrying of to? Like I can't tell if France is coming to marry off my daughter, or an inside of the family.

In older versions, you take your princess, select the general/family member you want to marry her to. If it's of a different faction, you see a % chance of success or failure - if the man's of your own faction, then chance is 100%.

[Foreign Fruitcake]

Sorry I thought you meant brothers/sisters and so on. Well yes you can marry cousins. I don't keep track of resulting traits.

[GuineaPig]

Sorry I thought you meant brothers/sisters and so on. Well yes you can marry cousins. I don't keep track of resulting traits.

I'm trying to explain that in my current campaign as France, I cannot marry cousins, and I'm asking if this was removed from SS 6.1!

[Vasquez]

Well I'm playing France (Late Era) and I can marry cousins.

[Chimander]

Same here. Marrying within the family tree should work.

[GuineaPig]

Huh. That's weird... I'm pretty sure I did it as Genoa in 6.0, but it just isn't working for me. I think I'll just try it with another faction.

[Vagabond]

My point is, I don't think you can do that (or at least I can't, playing as France in the Late Campaign) in 6.1.

Maybe I should see if it works with another faction.

It works perfectly for me and i think historically at that time cousins can marry.

[Waar]

i think first cousins were a bit taboo but anything beyond that was alright. (but then again it's western European royalty; probably a lot of taboo stuff going on)

[GuineaPig]

I tried it with Castille, it works for them. Maybe it's this:

-Princesses can't marry their nephews

but

-Princesses can marry their uncles

Because with France, I was trying to marry a princess to her nephew (the age difference was only 2 years), so maybe that's it.

[Snesopp]

<age_difference_min int="-10"/>
<age_difference_max int="35"/>
Anything goes, just not brother and sister.