Barb Factions and Academies

**Drewski** · May 09, 2008, 07:59 PM

Ok I'm Thrace, I've gone on a slaughter fest through The Aegean Peninsula, and captured all of it.

My question, if I send family members to the Captured "Academy" cities (Athens, Corinth, Sparta e.g.), will they pick up positive traits? Ot are academies useless to Barb Factions?

**Andy5** · May 10, 2008, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Drewski

Ok I'm Thrace, I've gone on a slaughter fest through The Aegean Peninsula, and captured all of it.

My question, if I send family members to the Captured "Academy" cities (Athens, Corinth, Sparta e.g.), will they pick up positive traits? Ot are academies useless to Barb Factions?

I had a look at export_descr_ancillaries.txt and it would appear most of the ancillaries obtained from an academy, scriptorium and ludus magna are excluded from barbarian cultures. While Thrace has elements of Greek culture I notice the ancillaries Thracian General's obtain are barbarian types. So I assume academies won't be of any use to you.

**Thotiate** · May 10, 2008, 07:21 AM

Dammit!

I am currently playing a Germania campaign and I was looking forward to sacking some ultra-civilized city and soaking up all the sweet ancillaries for my generals...hmm.

Alex

**The Sloth** · May 10, 2008, 08:43 AM

There are some things that also work for barbarians, though. Your FMs can get a musician and become poets. I'm not sure if there is more or not.

**Drewski** · May 10, 2008, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Sloth

There are some things that also work for barbarians, though. Your FMs can get a musician and become poets. I'm not sure if there is more or not.

I just got a musician from Sparta for my resident Thracian General, so at least the Academies are worth keeping then......

**Andy5** · May 10, 2008, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Drewski

I just got a musician from Sparta for my resident Thracian General, so at least the Academies are worth keeping then......

You got the musician because your general remained in a settlement for one turn and the settlement had an odeon.

**Drewski** · May 10, 2008, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Andy5

You got the musician because your general remained in a settlement for one turn and the settlement had an odeon.

Quite possibly

.....I'll take your word for it but will double check when I get back to the campaign...thanks for info

**Andy5** · May 10, 2008, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Thotiate

Dammit!
I am currently playing a Germania campaign and I was looking forward to sacking some ultra-civilized city and soaking up all the sweet ancillaries for my generals...hmm.
Alex

The real benefit for barbarian factions when you capture ultra-civilized cities is a foundry. Barbarian factions cannot produce them but if you capture a settlement with one you can upgrade your armour and weapons by +2.

**Drewski** · May 11, 2008, 10:31 AM

@Andy and anyone interested:- I've also been getting Freeman Clerks from Sparta and Athens, which are VERY useful for a barb faction...train generals up in Athens then send them up to The Supersize Me cities around the eastern Black Sea, and watch the coffers swell (I just conquered and exterminated Tylis for example, now it has 11% growth rate on Very High Taxes....ouch)

**Andy5** · May 13, 2008, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by Drewski

@Andy and anyone interested:- I've also been getting Freeman Clerks from Sparta and Athens, which are VERY useful for a barb faction...train generals up in Athens then send them up to The Supersize Me cities around the eastern Black Sea, and watch the coffers swell (I just conquered and exterminated Tylis for example, now it has 11% growth rate on Very High Taxes....ouch)

It appears there are quite a few trade-related ancillaries that are not excluded from barbarian cultures ie freeman clerks, grain merchants, goldsmith, merchant, silk merchant, and spice merchant. I need to check on all the buildings that award these ancillaries.