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    Icon2 Violence erupts in Beirut, Russian war with Georgia?

    Are we in for a hot summer?


    The Levant flaming up again:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/me...lah/index.html

    Russia prepares for war with Georgia:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu....ap/index.html

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    maybe theyll tire themselves out, like a baby who makes a fuss before it falls asleep, if we just ignore it we can kick back on our hammocks with our mojitos all summer long.


    summer is too hot for fighting, anyway, amirite?

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    Once again russia throws around its weight at the smaller countries. If it had enough guts, it would go agianst the illegal Chinese Lumber camps that sends the lumber back to china while lining the pockets of those in charge.

    Its utterly disapointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turkish Sultan View Post
    Once again russia throws around its weight at the smaller countries. If it had enough guts, it would go agianst the illegal Chinese Lumber camps that sends the lumber back to china while lining the pockets of those in charge.

    Its utterly disapointing.
    I've been wondering about when the Russians are gonna look East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senno View Post
    I've been wondering about when the Russians are gonna look East.
    I mean the Chinese are stealing resources from Russia by bribing anyone they can, but instead of solving it and stopping the deforestation, they focus on poor Georgia. I would imagine they would have some sort of priority list.

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    Bullies generally only flex their strength when they know they can get away with it. China would be a very difficult enemy for Russia. Whereas, what can Georgia due? China and Russia seem to be enjoying closer and closer ties though these days it seems.

    There's probably some seedy underhanded corrupt reasons going on as to why there's no response to deforesting Siberia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turkish Sultan View Post
    I mean the Chinese are stealing resources from Russia by bribing anyone they can, but instead of solving it and stopping the deforestation, they focus on poor Georgia. I would imagine they would have some sort of priority list.
    If you know anything at all, you would know Russians live in Abkhazia and South Ossetia. And if you knew that then you would know they want to be Russian, not Georgian.

    I miss the the time when Russia would kick Turkey's ass every 10 years and annex a piece of it. It would put you back in your place.

    I'm pretty sure something will be reached without the Georgians being owned. So as for war this Summer; I really don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendI View Post
    I miss the the time when Russia would kick Turkey's ass every 10 years and annex a piece of it. It would put you back in your place.
    NATO interrupting your scheduled aggression? Dang western alliances, always ruining the fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendI View Post
    I miss the the time when Russia would kick Turkey's ass every 10 years and annex a piece of it. It would put you back in your place.
    Yep, thats why every attempt to make a Slavic empire with Constantiople as the capital has succeded. Oh wait.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turkish Sultan View Post
    I mean the Chinese are stealing resources from Russia by bribing anyone they can, but instead of solving it and stopping the deforestation, they focus on poor Georgia. I would imagine they would have some sort of priority list.
    what a load of BS?

    When did Chinese steal resources? They PAY hard cash to buy Russian oil after years of negotiating to build pipe lines.

    So if Turkey buys oil = trade,
    China buys oil = steal.

    absolutely disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superworms View Post
    what a load of BS?

    When did Chinese steal resources? They PAY hard cash to buy Russian oil after years of negotiating to build pipe lines.

    So if Turkey buys oil = trade,
    China buys oil = steal.

    absolutely disgusting.
    Oil? Oil now comes from Trees? What part of Deforestation do you not understand? The "De" part or the "forest" or the "ation" part?

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    Well they have always hated each other. I can sit back in America as I doubt we'll enter another conflict during election season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The King Of Peasants View Post
    Well they have always hated each other. I can sit back in America as I doubt we'll enter another conflict during election season.
    perfect time for hugo chávez or the castro brothers or iran or one of the other anti-americanists of the world to start kicking up a stink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antea View Post
    perfect time for hugo chávez or the castro brothers or iran or one of the other anti-americanists of the world to start kicking up a stink.
    Floridans have been wondering what that "stink" is for a while now. It's emanating from Cuba.

    Oh yeah, Cuba is interested in exploiting their oil now. Vive la Revolution, indeed.

    Venezuela needs to be careful. They haven't finished importing their weaponry yet.And wars are bad for business. "Stink" for show, drill for dough.

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    Gee, I wonder if Russia will get even HALF the international backlash that the US does. There's always some complaint over Russian activity but it dies down. When you have troops that go into Chechnya and literally annihilate everything in their path but that's never brought up more than a week after it happened. But a Marine tossing a dog off a cliff or a dog being blown up atop an IED shows America's evil nature. Seriously, I used to wish we pursue things the way the Russians did. Like, you get hit by an IED you question the people they say they have no idea like usual, you warn them, you get hit by another IED in front of their village, you burn down their village. But we don't do that cause it's stupid, and it's not morally right. Russians do though, but no one cares cause they don't wear the daddy pants. Their like, the drunk Uncle of the family, you know Daddy's younger brother that's always trying to compete with daddy but spends most of his time at the racetrack or in Vegas, or the gutter.

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    Default Re: Violence erupts in Beirut, Russian war with Georgia?

    i doubt that russia will go to war with georgia, too much to loose over what? They will be content to keep georgia outside of Nato.

    I'm a bit worried about lebanon instead, i hope that things don't escalate and no one of our guys in the Unifil force get shot at, i really don't see how lebanon can recover from the current crisis, it seems that the various political parts don't want any kind of agreement on a new government
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    Default Re: Violence erupts in Beirut, Russian war with Georgia?

    Yeah, I understood your meaning. Not war on China by Russia. Siberia is being deforested and the lack of response is....interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_Since_1985 View Post
    Russia prepares for war with Georgia:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu....ap/index.html
    Increasing peacekeepers who have a maximum of 3,000 men isn't preparing for war. Really.
    No one's gonna go to war over Georgia.

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    Lebanon is a hotbed right now. I would hate to see any fighting start their because it will inevitably lead to Israeli involvement and that will lead to hezbollah getting involved yatta yatta yatta.

    As far as the whole Russia thing, le tthem do what they want. they're only going to bring down international outcry and hatred towards them. The world does not smile upon imperialism this century. Russia is and always has been behind the times. It's time they caught up.

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    Georgia existed for thousands of years and still exists, while many great nations perished as rome, caliphate, aztecs and etc. We are hard fighters, the history shows, not me. and whether there will be this forum, russia or usa, my grandchildren will be washing their feet in Black Sea. and this is not just a post - It is willingness of my fellows to spend last drop, use last gold, invent best plot and do anything to keep us alive and happy instead of being established after medieval period as nations as most of Europe or just couple of hundred years like americans.
    The fact is that its both Georgians and Russians who escalate the process. Even worse is the fact that leaders don't want to negotiate and use this conflict for their means. Saakashvili for elections, Putin for kosovo defeat.
    By the way, there will be people dyeing if war will start. Actually who out of you experienced war on your skin to discuss it with such an enthusiasm? And I don't give a damn about international community for our protection, because I'm not a kid anymore to beleive that somebody will help you without asking lot more instead.

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