what do royal ghulams do?!

[HunterKiller]

i wonder what those guyz do, first they cost me a building costs 10000 money second it gives me 1 units per 10 turn, third they r only 25 man instead of 40 like in medium and junior ghulams. fourth they have only 1hp. which means. "WHAT DA HELL THEY DO ANY WAY?! ANGELS OR ELVES?! MAYBE DEVILS! WHO KNOWS !!!! "

thanks for reading.

[Mikemanvick]

They're a bodyguard unit.

[Deep_Red]

But they seem quite weak, don´t they?
Let´s wait for some staff people. I never played the Seljuks, therefore...
*sits down to eat some cake*

[Faris ad Din]

Answer? NOTHING!!! Except parade around in pretty armor and look good.

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Description of Auxilia Palatina (WRE) in BI:
"The Auxilia Palatina are heavy infantrymen, armed and equipped much as other late Roman soldiers. Their status as palace guards makes them something of an elite within the field armies of Rome.

The auxilia are not the same as the troops of the same name from before the military reforms of Constantine the Great and Diocletia. The Praetorian Guard was eventually disbanded thanks to its habit of regularly murdering Emperors, and new forces were created to guard the palaces and persons of the royal family. The 'Auxilia of the Palatine Hill' is made up of well trained provincial Romans, with about one in five being non-Roman 'barbarians'. While they are a 'court guard' they are also a practical force that is expected to go on campaign, not stand around looking good in over-polished armour! They can be relied on to fight hard in most circumstances."
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Description for Royal Ghulams:
"The Royal Ghulams are heavy cavalrymen, armed and equipped lavishly with all that money can buy. Where that money comes from is of no import. Their status as palace guards makes them something of an elite within the field armies of the Seljuks.

The Royal Ghulams are not the same troops as their counterparts. The Royal Ghulams were formed, thanks to its habit of hounding the king for more money for fancier horses and weapons, and new forces were created to wield these money sinks (as well as to guard the palaces and persons of the royal family). The Royal Ghulams is made up of well trained Seljuks, with about one in five being part-time movie extras. They are a 'court guard' that are an impractical force on campaign, and their main purpose is to stand around looking good in over-polished armor! They can be relied on to dazzle the crowds, easing some of the hole that they are in the Sultan's pocket."
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Now seriously, you can use LIGHT CAVALRY for the same purpose in BC (as almost all cavalry charges can destroy all kinds of infantry units in one blow). Plus they are cheaper to train, cheaper to maintain, and more plentiful in replenishment. Thanks to AlphaDelta and Strelac even the light cavalry look pretty, too.

[Heinz Guderian]

Doesnt recruiting them give you a general? And all the benefits of having a general and its bodyguard unit?

[HunterKiller]

Doesnt recruiting them give you a general? And all the benefits of having a general and its bodyguard unit?

u mean, besides costing a fortune and waiting time, the whole unit can die and disappear when the general die?! oh dear this is really HARAM!!

[Kip]

Answer? NOTHING!!! Except parade around in pretty armor and look good.

Whoops, didn't read this line at all

Although you were the only one to say it, and even then only in one line, so I like to think it was an honest mistake on my part

Besides, is it that much trouble to scroll past one extra post?

[Faris ad Din]

What, this???

Answer? NOTHING!!! Except parade around in pretty armor and look good.

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Description of Auxilia Palatina (WRE) in BI:
"The Auxilia Palatina are heavy infantrymen, armed and equipped much as other late Roman soldiers. Their status as palace guards makes them something of an elite within the field armies of Rome.

The auxilia are not the same as the troops of the same name from before the military reforms of Constantine the Great and Diocletia. The Praetorian Guard was eventually disbanded thanks to its habit of regularly murdering Emperors, and new forces were created to guard the palaces and persons of the royal family. The 'Auxilia of the Palatine Hill' is made up of well trained provincial Romans, with about one in five being non-Roman 'barbarians'. While they are a 'court guard' they are also a practical force that is expected to go on campaign, not stand around looking good in over-polished armour! They can be relied on to fight hard in most circumstances."
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Description for Royal Ghulams:
"The Royal Ghulams are heavy cavalrymen, armed and equipped lavishly with all that money can buy. Where that money comes from is of no import. Their status as palace guards makes them something of an elite within the field armies of the Seljuks.

The Royal Ghulams are not the same troops as their counterparts. The Royal Ghulams were formed, thanks to its habit of hounding the king for more money for fancier horses and weapons, and new forces were created to wield these money sinks (as well as to guard the palaces and persons of the royal family). The Royal Ghulams is made up of well trained Seljuks, with about one in five being part-time movie extras. They are a 'court guard' that are an impractical force on campaign, and their main purpose is to stand around looking good in over-polished armor! They can be relied on to dazzle the crowds, easing some of the hole that they are in the Sultan's pocket."
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The FIRST unit description is real. The SECOND one is totally fake, it's a spoof I made. "with about one in five being part-time movie extras"

[Kip]

Look awesome.

[Faris ad Din]

Previous poster apparently posted blind without reading anything but the title... I'll stop complaining about it, I accept this fact of life. People love to talk without listening.

[Heinz Guderian]

Previous poster apparently posted blind without reading anything but the title... I'll stop complaining about it, I accept this fact of life. People love to talk without listening.

KippyK meant:

What do royal ghulams do? They look awesome!

i.e. like a hot girl, what do hot girls do? they look awesome!

KippyK is a nice guy. No need to be so scathing.

[Faris ad Din]

I know. I didn't mean to be scathing, I like him too. It just seemed too short of a comment after other posters already stated the same thing and more - like empty repetition.

[Faris ad Din]

!%*@*&*!@!

Hehe. It's all cool, man. I'm just used to being in deep-level discusssions on forums rather than casual ones.

[Kip]

Look awesome.


...Wait a minute.


EDIT: Alright, I'm pretty spam-tastic now. Sorry lol

[Miraj]

I guess they could use a stats boost.

The current new stats that Strel and GV set up for 1.1 are much better, just could need 2 HP and perhaps an armoured mount.

[allenguy007]

I guess they could use a stats boost.

The current new stats that Strel and GV set up for 1.1 are much better, just could need 2 HP and perhaps an armoured mount.

I would suggest bringing their stats up to cataphract level and add an armored mount. I would also suggest allowing several extra factions to recruit it and remove the general attachment. I don't think we need more 2HP invincible cavalry of doom.

[Faris ad Din]

He Ram (Oh God)!
2 HP may turn the heavy cavalry into more SuperheroInenvitableAndInexorable bodyguard clones. I was thinking that they could use a steroid shot in numbers, as so many units vary widely - elite units become more expensive with fewer numbers. Either that or a slight steroid shot in replenishment rates to justify the construction of advanced stables.

Because in the end, it is often more efficient to maintain an army of the same types of units... mid-game you build a force and a supply chain of junior ghulams, and it is easy to reinforce units that take losses - all your melee cavalry are the same type of unit. Now if you try to introduce different heavier types of cavalry, it is impossible to redistribute soldiers between units and it just gets messy. If it is too hard to recruit and reinforce more than a token handful of elite units we will end up with a situation where they truly are not worth their combat/strategic value.

[spam]
"But they look awesome!"
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[Faris ad Din]

I was quoting Mahatma Gandhi's last words before he was shot... "He Ram" is Hindi for "Oh God," I was not saying HARAAM! Oh well... never mind...

General's bodyguard units suck in that one way - kill the general, and after the end of the battle the whole bodyguard unit is eliminated. The general can be more of a liability than a benefit.

[redz27m]

another BC's cool reality set if you ask me...y? well as they say those royal ghulams are supposed to be that way, they are guards in palaces looking majestically and are use only for parades, lets keep them that way historically....ok

[Kennylz]

Armoured mounts, no 2 hp, armour stat boost. Do they inspire troops already? If not, add that.