Eriador faction?

[deathmaw]

what was here is gone



sorry about this my sister posted it

[Pietrak]

Fornost and Amon Sul IS NOT the same. Fornost was directly north of the Shire.

[deathmaw]

Watch-tower on Weathertop. Weathertop - which was also called Amon Sul - was the southernmost of the Weather Hills. It was located north of the Great East Road in Eriador. The Tower of Amon Sul was once tall and fair, but by the end of the Third Age only ruins remained.
The Tower of Amon Sul was built in the first days of the North-kingdom of Arnor, which was founded in 3320 of the Second Age. At that time, the seven palantiri were divided and placed in different parts of Gondor and Arnor. The largest and most powerful palantir in the North was kept in the Tower of Amon Sul. The Stone of Amon Sul was the chief palantir used for communicating with Gondor. The palantir was kept on a round table of black marble with a curved depression in the surface where the seeing-stone was set.

It was said that Elendil watched from the Tower of Amon Sul for the arrival of Gil-galad before they set out to fight Sauron in the War of the Last Alliance.

When Arnor was divided into three kingdoms in 861 of the Third Age, the Tower of Amon Sul was claimed by Arthedain and a special warden was posted there to guard and maintain the palantir. But Cardolan and Rhudaur also wanted possession of the Tower and its seeing-stone and there was strife among the three kingdoms.

In 1356, King Argeleb I of Arthedain was slain defending the Weather Hills against an assault from Rhudaur, which was then ruled by an evil lord of the Hillmen who had secretly joined forces with the Witch-king of Angmar. Arveleg I, son of Argeleb, drove back the invaders and defended the Weather Hills for many years. But in 1409, Weathertop was surrounded by a great host from Angmar. Arveleg was killed and the Tower of Amon Sul was burned and razed. The Stone of Amon Sul was rescued by the forces of Arthedain, but it was later lost at sea.

Over time the ring of stones that had once been the foundation of the Tower of Amon Sul crumbled and became overgrown with grass. When Gandalf came to Weathertop on October 3, 3018, he was besieged by the Nazgul in the ruins. There was a great battle on the hilltop, and when he escaped Gandalf left a cairn of broken and burned stones in the center of the ruins. Gandalf marked the topmost stone with the G rune and three strokes to indicate that he had been there on October 3.

Aragorn interpreted the message when he came with the Hobbits to Weathertop on October 6. Later that night in a dell on the western side of Weathertop, five Nazgul attacked and Frodo Baggins was gravely wounded by the Witch-king before the Nazgul withdrew and Aragorn led the Hobbits away.

Names & Etymology:
Amon Sûl was the Sindarin name for Weathertop. It means "Hill of the Wind" from amon meaning "hill" and sûl meaning "wind."

[Linkinsander]

Watch-tower on Weathertop. Weathertop - which was also called Amon Sul - was the southernmost of the Weather Hills. It was located north of the Great East Road in Eriador. The Tower of Amon Sul was once tall and fair, but by the end of the Third Age only ruins remained.
The Tower of Amon Sul was built in the first days of the North-kingdom of Arnor, which was founded in 3320 of the Second Age. At that time, the seven palantiri were divided and placed in different parts of Gondor and Arnor. The largest and most powerful palantir in the North was kept in the Tower of Amon Sul. The Stone of Amon Sul was the chief palantir used for communicating with Gondor. The palantir was kept on a round table of black marble with a curved depression in the surface where the seeing-stone was set.

It was said that Elendil watched from the Tower of Amon Sul for the arrival of Gil-galad before they set out to fight Sauron in the War of the Last Alliance.

When Arnor was divided into three kingdoms in 861 of the Third Age, the Tower of Amon Sul was claimed by Arthedain and a special warden was posted there to guard and maintain the palantir. But Cardolan and Rhudaur also wanted possession of the Tower and its seeing-stone and there was strife among the three kingdoms.

In 1356, King Argeleb I of Arthedain was slain defending the Weather Hills against an assault from Rhudaur, which was then ruled by an evil lord of the Hillmen who had secretly joined forces with the Witch-king of Angmar. Arveleg I, son of Argeleb, drove back the invaders and defended the Weather Hills for many years. But in 1409, Weathertop was surrounded by a great host from Angmar. Arveleg was killed and the Tower of Amon Sul was burned and razed. The Stone of Amon Sul was rescued by the forces of Arthedain, but it was later lost at sea.

Over time the ring of stones that had once been the foundation of the Tower of Amon Sul crumbled and became overgrown with grass. When Gandalf came to Weathertop on October 3, 3018, he was besieged by the Nazgul in the ruins. There was a great battle on the hilltop, and when he escaped Gandalf left a cairn of broken and burned stones in the center of the ruins. Gandalf marked the topmost stone with the G rune and three strokes to indicate that he had been there on October 3.

Aragorn interpreted the message when he came with the Hobbits to Weathertop on October 6. Later that night in a dell on the western side of Weathertop, five Nazgul attacked and Frodo Baggins was gravely wounded by the Witch-king before the Nazgul withdrew and Aragorn led the Hobbits away.

Names & Etymology:
Amon Sûl was the Sindarin name for Weathertop. It means "Hill of the Wind" from amon meaning "hill" and sûl meaning "wind."

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[Colonel Cleg McLeg]

BTW, in my opinion, Hobbiton should not be the town representing the Shire. Michel Delving should, which was the "capital", for wont of a better word, of the Shire.

[deathmaw]

i think bree or something like it should be capital

[< Shved >]

I'm agree

[Colonel Cleg McLeg]

i think bree or something like it should be capital

Nonononono.
The Shire's borders at the end of the third age were roughly this: The White Downs and the North-South road in the West, some unspecified line south of the Hills of Evendim in the North, and the Brandywine River (and Buckland) in the east and south. Bree was outside the Shire, to the east of the Brandywine.

Unless you meant Capital of Eriador in which case I agree with you and I'm sorry.

[deathmaw]

yeah thanks

[deathmaw]

no need to apolegize but yeah that's what i meant

[Eleril]

Well,call me stupid!For the first time I see this thread.And my be I can make some corrections.First,a thing that Deathmaw posted:

The largest and most powerful palantir in the North was kept in the Tower of Amon Sul.

This is a mistake.The most powerful of the Palantiri was in Elostirion-the largest of the towers of Emin Beriad-the Tower Hills.It was build by Gil-galad for his friend Elendil.And there Elendil set the Palantir with hope to see some part of Numenor that was still above the waves of the Great Sea-the top of the Meneltarma.The Palantir of Amon Sul was one of the other three left in Eriador.And at the last years of the Third Age the only remaining Palantiri were those of Orthanc,Minas Morgul,Minas Tirith and Elostirion.But only the Orthanc Stone could be used as intended.

And I agree with the statement that the capital of Eriador should be Bree.It makes sense.

[The Big Red 1]

Bree is the Largest and has the most diverse population. So I think so too.

[Varjon]

I think you are wrong, Palantir of Elostiron might have had longest range of sight but it wasn't used to communication like other palantirs. As you said, Elendil often went to tower of Elostirion and watched to sea hoping to see some parts of Numenor which still were above the surface.

But I agree with you about Bree. Bree and 3 other towns around it had the largest population in Eriador, or probably Shire had but it's not proper capital.

[Eleril]

Well,in The Lord of the Rings,the Unfinished Tales
and the Silmarilion is clearly stated that the Plantir of Emin Beraid was "The Master Stone".Indeed it had special properties but it was held as the greatest and the most powerful of the Watching Stones.But if we talk about the other three Arnor-stones then it is right to say that the chief of them was the Amon Sil-stone for it was used not only for connection between the plantiri of Arnor but for communication with Gondor as well.That would justify the statement of Deathmaw that the Plantir of Amon Sul was the chief andmost powerful one.But only in the North.For if I remember correctly the Osgiliath-stone was the chief palantir of the South and it was used for communication with Arnor.And these two here held special because of the fact that they connected the two kingdoms of th Dunedain but their strength was equal to the others.But as I said before the Elostirion-stone was the Master-stone and greater than the others.

And about the capital of Eriador-I can't remember any other town that is greater than Bree in the time frame of the War of the Ring.Unless Fornost and Annuminas and the other Numenorian settlements in Eriador are made with the option to be rebuilt from the ruins.If that is the case my vote is for Annuminas.

[Deckster]

I thought the stone of the Tower Hills could only look to the sea and nowhere else, and that the Osgiliath stone was the chief of all of them.

Anyway, I think Rivendell would make the most sense as capital of Eriador because if it fell, all else would. If the elves get it, though, then one of the cities of Arnor would be a better choice than Bree or any Shire town, even if the city was in ruins. I think Fornost was restored by Aragorn and used as his norther capital early in the Fourth Age, so it wouldn't be too inaccurate to have it in.

[Varjon]

High elves and Eriador are different factions. There were only ruins in Fornost and Annuminas so I wouldn't vote for them. Bree should be capital and that's my last word.

[Blacknight_1990]

I have an idea how the option to reconstruct the old cities of Arnor could work.

At first the city is depopulated, there is a small population of a few hundred and negative or zero population growth. After you conquer the city you have to construct a special building to gain access to the standard building options. This building would be very expensive and take a lot of time to costruct. It would cost 20 or 25 thousand of the currency you are going to use and take 8 to 10 turns to complete. The building also should provide population growth.

I don't know if this is possible.

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

Sounds like a great idea! +rep

[The Big Red 1]

It should be cheaper ,but great Idea +rep

[Kaas]

I am not sure if it mentioned before, but are there still people living in the city of Annúminas (not sure how to write it)?