Where did Ron Paul go wrong?

[KING OF TWC!]

Hes perfect!
Why dont YOU like him?

[Rush Limbaugh]

Running as a republican.

[Panzerbear]

he should have run as independent. he is too smart and / or revolutionary in order for the vast masses of rednecks to accept him as one of their own.

[Poisoner]

he should have run as independent. he is too smart and / or revolutionary in order for the vast masses of rednecks to accept him as one of their own.

Another tool with an expert opinion on rednecks. I'm sure its those stupid rednecks who kept him from becoming the nominee. Thats why he has been the congressional representative for the 14th congressional district of Texas, here in the heart of redneck country where we still ride horses to work. Why don't you stick to what you know instead of running your mouth about you don't know.

Them ol' red necks in Texas also won him this year's primary for his congressional seat. Damn red necks.

[Twfan55]

I really dont think Ron Paul did not do much wrong. He ran a grassroots campaign that actually wasnt as well funded as some people think. The media coverage or lack there of was a major factor I believe. He recieved 1/5 the time that Romney and McCain got in the debates and less than 5% of the media coverage. With the obstacles he faced I think got his message out as much as he could with the limited media coverage.

Now, with the emergence of the newest bestseller (#1 on Amazon, NYT as of 18th) "The Revolution : A Manifesto" his message of Limited Government and Noninterventionism will be carried on even after the 2008 elections. All the proceeds of this book will go to fund Revolution grassroots projects. And I definately recommend buying this book and reading it, or if you have an Ron Paul supporter you know I am sure they will lend you their book.

Ron Paul on Isolationism Exerpt from The Revolution : A Manifesto

It is easy to dismiss the noninterventionist view as the quaint aspiration of men who lived in a less complicated world, but its not so easy to demonstrate how our current policies serve any national interst at all. Perhaps an honest examination of the history of American interventionism in the 20th century, from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to the Middle East, would reveal the Founding Fathers foresaw more than we think.

Anyone who advocates the noninterventionist foreign policy of the Founding Fathers can expect top be derided as an isolationist. I myself have never been an isolationist. I favor the very opposite of Isolation: Diplomacy, free trade, and freedom of travel. The real isolationists are those who impose sanctions and imbargos on countries and peoples across the globe because they disagree with internal and foreign policies of thier leaders. The real isolationists are those who choose to ue force overseas to premote democracy, rather than seeking change through diplomacy, engagement, and by setting a positive example. These isolationists are those who isolate their country in the court of world opinion by persuing needless belligerence and war that have nothing to do with legitimate national security concerns.

[Da Skinna]

It is easy to dismiss the noninterventionist view as the quaint aspiration of men who lived in a less complicated world, but its not so easy to demonstrate how our current policies serve any national interst at all. Perhaps an honest examination of the history of American interventionism in the 20th century, from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to the Middle East, would reveal the Founding Fathers foresaw more than we think.

Anyone who advocates the noninterventionist foreign policy of the Founding Fathers can expect top be derided as an isolationist. I myself have never been an isolationist. I favor the very opposite of Isolation: Diplomacy, free trade, and freedom of travel. The real isolationists are those who impose sanctions and imbargos on countries and peoples across the globe because they disagree with internal and foreign policies of thier leaders. The real isolationists are those who choose to ue force overseas to premote democracy, rather than seeking change through diplomacy, engagement, and by setting a positive example. These isolationists are those who isolate their country in the court of world opinion by persuing needless belligerence and war that have nothing to do with legitimate national security concerns.

Real lunatic, this guy.

[VALIS]

Being a screw loose.

[Icefrisco]

Where did he go wrong? Well, if you like isolationism then go support Ron Paul.

[KING OF TWC!]

*non interventionism

He has his point though, intervening so much is putting us in debt.

[Panzerbear]

average American has apparently more than $10K in credit card debt (I remember reading a study on it). what makes you think they will find it an insane idea to fund overseas wars by borrowing trillions?\

of course they will be offended by Ron Paul's rationalism .

[KING OF TWC!]

A single man's credit debt has nothing to do with the well-being of a nation.

[Panzerbear]

A single man's credit debt has nothing to do with the well-being of a nation.

but millions of people who can not manage their own money certainly will not understand a notion of a need to pay back one's country debt eventually.

govt wastes HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS. this is scary. yet we are always told that there is nothing we should be worrying about.

[Senno]

but millions of people who can not manage their own money certainly will not understand a notion of a need to pay back one's country debt eventually.

The Russian answer is devalue the ruble and declare a moratorium on the national debt. Then exhibit dancing Yeltsins around the world.

Ron Paul = to Libertarian for me.

[Panzerbear]

The Russian answer is devalue the ruble and declare a moratorium on the national debt. Then exhibit dancing Yeltsins around the world.

the Russian answer is to pay back all its dept in no time and actually have highly profitable budgets.

we have over $450 billions sitting in strategic monetary reserves. actually, a good chunk of it is US foreign debt. i.e. quite the opposite of what is US doing.

as far as dancing around the world goes, Bush took the record in that discipline .

[Senno]

the Russian answer is to pay back all its dept in no time and actually have highly profitable budgets.

we have over $450 billions sitting in strategic monetary reserves. actually, a good chunk of it is US foreign debt. i.e. quite the opposite of what is US doing.

Good recovery. How long did it take to achieve? And are you happy with the overall standard of living in Russia yet?

You think we can't pay back our debt? It's about 70% of our GDP or so.

Maybe high, but in a $14 trillion economy, not gonna cause our collapse.

Sorry, no dancing Yeltsins will be seen in the near future.

Ron Paul is at the libertarian extreme of our society. He's not electable.

P.S. We are sitting on a fortune in natural resources that we are voluntarily not exploiting to save the environment. They also make a nice reserve, we can obtain them as needed.

[Romano-Dacis]

actually it does, since it speaks of the mentality in that nation, especially if it's regarding an average.

Ron Paul didn't really go wrong on anything I can recall. He just was playing on a slanted field this whole time. I felt he wasn't a good enough speaker in the debates. He made very good points, but it was often like listening to a nanny "don't go spending all your pocket change in one place... and keep your shoes tied..."

He should have been more like "America, today is the day we change our course in history blah blah blah"

P.S. Hey whadaya know, I actually agree with czar on something!

[Senno]

Or insane to fund our defense spending at such levels that we fall to pieces and lose our empire and end up with a dancing Yeltsin?

Ron Pauls total free market and isolationist ideas are an anachronism. He is entertaining to watch on CSPAN, but as President? No thanks.

[Romano-Dacis]

Ron Pauls total free market and isolationist ideas are an anachronism.

Completely, because total free market is not what Hong Kong, a world financial center, has. I mean, look at Hong Kong, it must be so ed up in comparison to America. While we're at it, that primitive document called "the constitution" is archaic and not good for much anymore...

[Kiljan Arslan]

where did he go wrong? hmm maybe being a insane idiot might have something to do with it, who decided to protect the likes of Lew Rockwell, (thats the guy who wreote all those nice pieces in Ron Paul's little "Survival report".) Associating with racists, not giving racists money to charity, need I say more? Oh and being a secessionist.

Oh and ROn Paul wouldn't pay back the debt he'd just default the debt, (thatswhat the libertarian parties answer to the debt is)

[KING OF TWC!]

What?
He's Libertarian how could he be racist.

Thats like saying a Jew is a Nazi....

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