Hinduism

[Brightgalrs]

Well, I've played The Rajput States, but I have noticed they have no "priest" on the campaign map, will this be included in a later release, or will it stay?

[kepper]

You most want for the version to get priest

[Heinz Guderian]

Well, I've played The Rajput States, but I have noticed they have no "priest" on the campaign map, will this be included in a later release,

I think so. I heard a guy who knew this other guy who said it would. But i also heard a guy who dated this other guy who said that the Rajput priests may look like imams.

[Faris ad Din]

I think so. I heard a guy who knew this other guy who said it would. But i also heard a guy who dated this other guy who said that the Rajput priests may look like imams.

Oh crikey. So we will have Brahmin priests who will speak with hoarse dry accents and speak Aranglish.

"Salaam alaykum!"
"I serve the faith!"
"Inshallah, I shall konteenyoo in the morning!"
"WHO HAS REJECTED SHARI'AH?"
"HE SHALL SUFFER THE HUDŪD!"
"THE APOSTATE MUST DIE!"

Or... everything will be silent and without voice ins.

[jermagon]

Oh crikey. So we will have Brahmin priests who will speak with hoarse dry accents and speak Aranglish.

"Salaam alaykum!"
"I serve the faith!"
"Inshallah, I shall konteenyoo in the morning!"
"WHO HAS REJECTED SHARI'AH?"
"HE SHALL SUFFER THE HUDŪD!"
"THE APOSTATE MUST DIE!"

Or... everything will be silent and without voice ins.

Seybnei le wahdy infidel

[Kennylz]

I've never seen priests for any factions. Am I missing something?

[Heinz Guderian]

I've never seen priests for any factions. Am I missing something?

not necessarily. Priests are harder to train than vanilla (higher level building). I didnt see any in the early part of the game, but saw them later. Then i used my imams to put a jihad on people i didnt like, just like i do in real life.

[Miraj]

Yeah I'll give them priests in 1.1. Kyps too. Not 100% sure about Makuria, but them too probably (some CTD issues with the African culture + priests).

[Kennylz]

Don't the Makurians have a less than orthodox strain of Christianity? They are isolated from the rest of the Christian world it seems like. I don't see how a Makurian priest and a Jerusalem priest would preach the same scripture.

It almost works as a differentiating factor for them to not have traditional priest units.

Edit: Meh, that could probably be said for some other factions too.

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

Don't the Makurians have a less than orthodox strain of Christianity? They are isolated from the rest of the Christian world it seems like. I don't see how a Makurian priest and a Jerusalem priest would preach the same scripture.

It almost works as a differentiating factor for them to not have traditional priest units.

Edit: Meh, that could probably be said for some other factions too.

They wouldn't; they're Orthodox, or at least for the purposes of the game (I think?!?!) In history, their head religious leader was the Patriarch of Alexandria (again, IIRC) and they were Coptic Christians, like the Armenians. But I don't think BC has Coptic as a religion so I'm pretty sure they're Orthodox.. it's been a while since I've played as them.

[Zag]

I don't see how a Makurian priest and a Jerusalem priest would preach the same scripture.

They wouldn't, since "The Great Schism" occured in 1054.

[Serious Spamurai]

I thought the general consensus from Hindus is that you cannot convert, but must be born a Hindu through re-incarnation. Other groups say all world religions are valid and so conversion is unnecessary.

[Arjun]

I thought the general consensus from Hindus is that you cannot convert, but must be born a Hindu through re-incarnation. Other groups say all world religions are valid and so conversion is unnecessary.

Hinduism does not support conversion because its not a missionary religion. but people who convert to Hinduism by themselves are not rejected.

so probably in the game the priest can claim the people convert by themselves; while all they(the priests) do is to tend to the well-being of the existing Hindu populus.

[Miraj]

Hey Arjun, what is the closest equivalent in hinduism of a priest or a preacher? Like what are "sages"/"wise men" called in Sanskrit/Hindi?

[Serious Spamurai]

Swami/स्वामी, meaning "owner of oneself", is the most commonly used word for members of monastic groups, i.e. monks, it's probably the closest to priest you'll get.

[Taneda Santôka]

How about guru(teacher)? Or sadhu? He could have an interesing naked moddel...

[Tail End Charlie]

I though Gurus were a later non-Hindu development?

My knowledge of Indian history is sketchy at best.

By the way, how much is the Indian campaign going to changed improved? I know the mod will go deeper into the sub-continent. Any err tidbits? Please...

[Taneda Santôka]

Sketchy at best... You thought guru applied to crazed-raving-Rael-style guru? You can read the article in my previous post for some enlightenment, but I'll just quote that

The dialogue between guru and disciple is a fundamental component of Hinduism, established in the oral traditions of the Upanishads (c. 2000 BC).

2000BC isnt so modern to me

[Serious Spamurai]

I though gurus (in the way most would think of them) would be more akin to being an ancillary for generals, I dunno, it's hard to judge, most of the terms are interchangeable.

[Taneda Santôka]

Well, juging from the eaning of the two words in sanskrit, teacher and wise-one, I'd do the opposite, guru(teacher) for priest and swami for anc. Guru are teachers, spreaders, not proselits like priests... But there are hindu priests anyway, who are neither gurus nor swami : Brahmin(not those crazy two headed cows! )/Brahman, also called Vipra or Dvija.