Traits at its max !!!

[The God of War]

I am playing as Greek City States and I have conquered almost all of Macedonia with Memnon of Sparta, right now he has the title "Memnon the Conqueror" and he has 10 military stars, 6 management stars and 10 influence stars.

I was wondering is there anything beyond this level like can he achieve better titles like "Memnon the Great" and if he can please tell me how ??? I really want to make this guy greater than he is (he is 48 at present has maximum experience, armour and attack possible - all gold) he evn has a good wife and four great children (so productivity is also good) !!! this man is also the faction heir (pretty old to be one - but who cares)

[Worm]

I think "the Mighty" is the best title, you need Legendary commander for that title.

[Sandrus Castus]

The Butcher's fun too.

[cherryfunk]

My favorite is 'Of the Eagles'... for when you've destroyed enough Roman legions in battle...

I had one Bosporan general who had so many eagles he decorated his bathroom with them...

[Taelok]

Haha yeah that's a good one. How many Eagles do you need to capture for it though? Is it just two?

I like the 'the Infantryman' as the Romans, or 'the Engineer'. Awesome!

[Brusilov]

Haha yeah that's a good one. How many Eagles do you need to capture for it though? Is it just two?

I like the 'the Infantryman' as the Romans, or 'the Engineer'. Awesome!

I think it's three Eagles to become 'of the Eagles'.

A selection of some of my Macedonain generals over time. Unfortunately, as the Romans have been destroyed there will be no more 'of the Eagles'....

[GreatOne]

.......he evn has a good wife and four great children (so productivity is also good).......

How did you get him to have 4 great children, all I get from my Sharp/Inteligent/Genius + Intelligent wives are Dull/Stupid children with almost always Ignorant wives.

By the way Ignorant Wife trait says "A wise man listens to his wife, but not all MAN are wise", now I don't want to engage in sex wars, but surely it was supposed to say women, or else trait would be called NotWiseMan :hmmm:

[The God of War]

How did you get him to have 4 great children, all I get from my Sharp/Inteligent/Genius + Intelligent wives are Dull/Stupid children with almost always Ignorant wives.

By the way Ignorant Wife trait says "A wise man listens to his wife, but not all MAN are wise", now I don't want to engage in sex wars, but surely it was supposed to say women, or else trait would be called NotWiseMan :hmmm:

sorry to say this but some people are lucky at love and some are not .... lol !!! by the way are you playing a german faction because they tend to have manly bossy sickly wives most of the time

[Caius Antonius]

manly bossy sickly wives most of the time

That's bad man...really bad...

[naeblis]

@Taelok, i think its only like 3-4 during my punic wars when i was conqueroring italy i had like 5 generals with that title. but most of them only fought a few battles so i dont think its too high.

[Bebbe]

Woah, your armies must kick ass

[Paidonomos]

Wish I had my old saved games handy, but I don't think "the Mighty" is tops necessarily. I had a Roman general who absolutely crushed the Parthians in over 25 field battles. His title worked its way up to "the Mighty", but after being on the defensive for a few fights it changed to "the Defender". He was a 10-star general, though his influence and management were only average. Aulus the Defender was one of my most badass generals ever.

In an older version I had a Spurius the Infantryman. That guy was so incredible that you could auto-calc battles with 4 or 5-1 odds against you and he'd still win big time!

[Caius Antonius]

Meh, most of my generals are butchers, no matter the faction

[Taelok]

Meh, most of my generals are butchers, no matter the faction

Caius that tells us a great deal about your personality .

[Squid]

There is no "max" to the epithet's, the epithet that is displayed is the last one that is acquired. So if you get "of the Eagles" and then "the Conqueror", "the Conqueror" will show. If you get "the Conqueror" and then "of the Eagles", "of the Eagles" will show.

[deathmaw]

mine are mostly the mighty as it is the best title in my opinion

[Taelok]

How do you get 'the Great'?

[Brusilov]

How do you get 'the Great'?

From the following it appears as if you need to get the Warlord trait up to the 4th level...... The threshold appears to double at each step. I don't know what the 'threshold' relates to.

From export_VnVs.txt;

{Legendary_Warlord}    Legendary Warlord

{Legendary_Warlord_desc}
This man's victories cannot be easily counted, and his presence on a battlefield inspires warriors to acts of insane heroism.

{Legendary_Warlord_gain_desc}
This man is now recognised as a great war leader for his people. 

{Legendary_Warlord_epithet_desc}    the Great

From export_descr_character_traits.txt

Trait Warlord
    Characters family
    ExcludeCultures carthaginian, eastern, egyptian, greek, roman
    NoGoingBackLevel  1
    AntiTraits Coward 

    Level War_Chief
        Description War_Chief_desc
        EffectsDescription War_Chief_effects_desc
        Threshold  1 

        Effect Command  1 
        Effect Law  1 

    Level Mighty_War_Chief
        Description Mighty_War_Chief_desc
        EffectsDescription Mighty_War_Chief_effects_desc
        Threshold  2 

        Effect Command  2 
        Effect Law  2 

    Level Warlord
        Description Warlord_desc
        EffectsDescription Warlord_effects_desc
        Threshold  4 

        Effect Command  3 
        Effect Law  3 

    Level Legendary_Warlord
        Description Legendary_Warlord_desc
        EffectsDescription Legendary_Warlord_effects_desc
        GainMessage Legendary_Warlord_gain_desc
        Epithet Legendary_Warlord_epithet_desc
        Threshold  8 

        Effect Command  4 
        Effect Law  4

[Nellup]

Threshold is the number of points you need in that trait tree in order for the trait to advance to the next level (for example, once you have two points in the Warlord trait, you advance to the Mighty_War_Chief level).
The triggers decide the probability of getting points in certain situations and how many points you get.
Look in the bottom part of the traits file, that is where all the triggers are.

[Taelok]

Thanks Brusilov, good posts. It's a shame more factions can't get 'the Great'.