Wales.

**Fenix_120** · April 30, 2008, 08:54 PM

So these threads have popped up over almost every other mod for kingdoms so I thought ill post one here.

Most people here are opposed to the Irish faction becuase historically it was not a united faction and alot of civil liberties have been taken to make them into one.

But then I got to thinking, Wales was.

So If one was to add some of Ireland's units to Wales to make it "Whole" would you guys rather have a Welsh faction than an Irish one?

**fieldmarshal** · April 30, 2008, 08:58 PM

Reason for Ireland, has nothing to do with history but the gameplay, it was decided that adding Ireland would make the British isles more exiting.
I would rather have Ireland than wales...3 factions in one Island is a little too much.

**Caesar Clivus** · April 30, 2008, 09:02 PM

Wait wait wait, Empire: TW will have 50 faction slots? Dear god! They had better also raise the ridiculous 500 unit limit too!

**Fenix_120** · April 30, 2008, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

Wait wait wait, Empire: TW will have 50 faction slots? Dear god! They had better also raise the ridiculous 500 unit limit too!

I think they said that it would be raised to 1000+ but don't hold me to that as I can't find the link in the official FAQ

EDIT: and so far their will be 10 playable factions and 40 non playable s, the actual limit might be even higher than that.

EDIT2: be sure to vote guys! and post and tell of your reasons.

**Aldgarkalaughskel** · April 30, 2008, 09:23 PM

With all due respect, these polls lead to nowhere.

You can't seriously pop up the question of Wales being a faction in SS. Wales was a unimportant, weak state at that time, besides it can be only utilized in the early era campaign.

There are dozens of similar mini-states like Wales, f.e. the Kingdom of Navarre, Kingdom of Cyprus etc., and you can't really decide which one to choose, unless you are biased to one of them.

**lesterthenerd** · April 30, 2008, 09:28 PM

keep ireland. they r my allies and i like making them marry of their princesses to my heirs.

**Sher Khan** · May 01, 2008, 12:03 AM

The best way to represent factions like this would be to beef up rebel garrisons.

By a lot. That way, English or Scottish or Irish troops don't simply steamroll over a Wales that usually wouldn't be so easy to conquer.

The same applies for all 'minor' factions that can't be included due to faction limits. BC did this right, and I treated rebel regions with massive garrisons as natural mini-factions in their own right, especially if given well experienced local forces.

**Caesar Clivus** · May 01, 2008, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Sher Khan

The best way to represent factions like this would be to beef up rebel garrisons.

By a lot. That way, English or Scottish or Irish troops don't simply steamroll over a Wales that usually wouldn't be so easy to conquer.

The same applies for all 'minor' factions that can't be included due to faction limits. BC did this right, and I treated rebel regions with massive garrisons as natural mini-factions in their own right, especially if given well experienced local forces.

I believe Quark is working on something like this right now