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    Default Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    Can someone tell me where to pick up a family tree file for the Teutonic Order or can smeone make one for me? I will Rep you of course and I'm sure a lot of Teutonic Order fans will as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by strife1013 View Post
    Can someone tell me where to pick up a family tree file for the Teutonic Order or can smeone make one for me? I will Rep you of course and I'm sure a lot of Teutonic Order fans will as well!
    Just open descr_sm_factions.txt, and change the line in blue below for any faction you want:

    faction france
    culture northern_european
    religion catholic
    symbol models_strat/symbol_france.CAS
    rebel_symbol models_strat/symbol_rebels.CAS
    primary_colour red 0, green 87, blue 177
    secondary_colour red 239, green 239, blue 239
    loading_logo loading_screen/symbols/symbol128_france.tga
    standard_index 10
    logo_index FACTION_LOGO_FRANCE
    small_logo_index SMALL_FACTION_LOGO_FRANCE
    triumph_value 5
    custom_battle_availability yes
    can_sap no
    prefers_naval_invasions no
    can_have_princess yes
    has_family_tree yes

    Change the word "yes" to "teutonic". That's it. Start a new campaign for the changes to kick in. Be warned, changing this can cause major instability in your campaign, as factions tend to go "rebel" (and I mean the entire faction) more easily. I eventually had to remove this feature from my own mod because Venice and the HRE, the two factions I enabled this for, kept turning all rebel.

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    errr, you do have to rename your family members and give them a "relative" tag in descr_strat after putting has_family_tree yes in descr_sm_factions.

    For example, here is my historally incorrect but working Teutonic family tree information in descr_strat patterned after the Templars. (I hated the name "Von Hohenstaufen") Be very careful with the spellings, all names and character records must be consistent, otherwise you won't be able to enter the game (happened to me on my first try)

    Code:
    character    Gunther Riemenschneider, named character, male, leader, age 45, x 224, y 239
    traits Factionleader 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , MilitaryInclination 1 ,Military_Edu 2 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodCommander 2 , PublicFaith 2 , CrusaderHistory 2 , BattleChivalry 4 , PoliticsSkill 2 , ReligionStarter 1 
    army
    unit        TO Bodyguard                exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Sword Brethren                exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Sword Brethren                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Prussian Archers            exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Prussian Archers            exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Order Spearmen                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Order Spearmen                exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Christ Knights                exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Christ Knights                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    
    character    Maximilian Riemenschneider, named character, male, heir, age 26, x 250, y 255
    traits Factionheir 1 , LoyaltyStarter 2 , MilitaryInclination 1 ,Military_Edu 2 , GoodCommander 1 , HaleAndHearty 1 , ReligionStarter 1 
    army
    unit        TO Bodyguard                exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Order Spearmen                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Prussian Archers            exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Crossbow Militia            exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Crossbow Militia                exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Christ Knights                exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    unit        Clergymen                    exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    
    character    Heidenrich, spy, male, age 23, x 232, y 249
    traits NaturalSpySkill 2
    
    character    Jan, priest, male, age 34, x 226, y 238
    traits NaturalPriestSkill 2 , GoodDenouncer 2 , PriestLevel 1 
    
    character_record    Katherina, female, age 29, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Dietrich Riemenschneider, male, age 7, alive, never_a_leader
    character_record    Clare Riemenschneider, female, age 6, alive, never_a_leader
    
    relative     Gunther Riemenschneider, Katherina, Maximilian Riemenschneider, Dietrich Riemenschneider, Clare Riemenschneider, end

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    I was thinking on doing so ^^ but started a HRE campaign so didnt ^^

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    why would you want one though? just curious is all.


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    without a family tree, you can only adopt or promote man of the hours. I'm guessing Education can only be used through Coming of Age, so you'd miss that feature.

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven the Victor View Post
    why would you want one though? just curious is all.
    I'm curious too; seeing this request quite a lot, I have to wonder why would anyone want something so horrifically ahistorical?

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    cause u cant enjoy the education system ^^ , well at least that my personal opinion ^^ and second , its easy to keep track of generals ^^ , and yes i know the other place

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    unless quark make a education system just for them ^^ but that would be allot of trouble for just one faction ^^

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    yea, I like the education system and want to use it for that faction. Thank you, I will have to test it later because GTA 4 is out in a few hours!!

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    oh btw, don't forget can_have_princess yes too if you want princesses. I realized Candelarius didn't highlight this. Although I haven't really come to the point where my female royal family members come of age so I'm not 100% sure if teutonic princesses would work (what strat models would they use?)

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    Same as Roman ^^ , it go with their color ^^

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    So, I changed my descr_sm_factions.txt to say:

    can_have_princess yes
    has_family_tree yes


    ...in the TO's section, as well as the descr_strat.txt modification that Userfri3ndly posted - all I'm getting is Grandmaster Gunther the Champion in my family tree, and that's it. What have I missed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljaden View Post
    So, I changed my descr_sm_factions.txt to say:

    can_have_princess yes
    has_family_tree yes


    ...in the TO's section, as well as the descr_strat.txt modification that Userfri3ndly posted - all I'm getting is Grandmaster Gunther the Champion in my family tree, and that's it. What have I missed?

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...er+family+tree


    you have to add them in as relatives...

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    You've already done the sm factions one so you might not need to repeat that process, but the descr_strat.txt labels them as relatives, with a princess, and wifes. All you need to get a family started.

    you may just want to copy the TO order part and paste it into your descr_strat... or just use my files.

    Good Luck, I prefer to play them this way.

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    Any idea if I can do this mid campaign? I just now realized this, but I don't want to start over!

    thanks!

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    Default Re: Teutonic Order Family Tree Request

    Quote Originally Posted by verax View Post
    Any idea if I can do this mid campaign? I just now realized this, but I don't want to start over!

    thanks!
    As is stated above, no you have to start a new campaign.

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    So I'm totally rezzing this thread from the dead, but I have a few further inquiries on this subject.

    1. Does altering the descr_strat and descr_sm_factions still apply for Stainless Steel 6.1 and/or 6.3?

    2. Does 6.1 or 6.3 have descr_sm_factions? I can't seem to find it anywhere in the files.

    3. Whenever I try to alter anything in descr_strat, I get the following message:

    Cannot create the C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data\world\maps\campaign\custom\Late_Era_Campaign\descr_strat.txt file.

    Make sure that the path and file name are correct.

    Does anyone know why this message comes up? It doesn't let me change the script as others have done.

    Please, any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thokran View Post
    1. Does altering the descr_strat and descr_sm_factions still apply for Stainless Steel 6.1 and/or 6.3?
    Yes they both have them and are editable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thokran View Post
    2. Does 6.1 or 6.3 have descr_sm_factions? I can't seem to find it anywhere in the files.
    Yes they have it.
    It's path is:-
    Medieval II Total War\mods\SS6.3\data folder.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thokran View Post

    3. Whenever I try to alter anything in descr_strat, I get the following message:

    Cannot create the C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data\world\maps\campaign\custom\Late_Era_Campaign\descr_strat.txt file.

    Make sure that the path and file name are correct.

    Does anyone know why this message comes up? It doesn't let me change the script as others have done.
    Right Click the file and select properties for it.
    After that uncheck read only option if checked and save it.
    And make sure you have admin rights to edit the files.

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    That seemed to solve the problem. Thanks guys!

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