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    ok i have read touti de la forum but cant seem to find something to make sense to my problem.

    I get a crash to desktop in turn 92, i have read that a lot of people get the same sort of crash 'unspecified error'. All the people get the crash in the middle of there turn.

    questions:

    1. I am playing with a ORIGINAL version of Kingdoms. I have vista, i don not have installed the latest 1.5 patch should i??? I have installed

    2. Where can i find the system log (please do not answer in youre game folder i have looked over an hour to find it but i cant please tell me in detail so i can post the last 5 lines. )

    thanks in advance guess it sckes when the game crashes especcially when it is such a great mod (never had problems before 6.0)

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    Check my latest post in the 6.0 bug report thread. Tell me if it worked.

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    Hi Reinoldus,

    to answer your questions:
    1. your installation seems to be ok. you don't have to install the latest patch.
    2. system.log is in the Medieval II Total War/Logs folder

    And crashes in Ai turns are always the most difficult errors to find, so the best help for me to find a bug is when you would upload your save-game, i.e
    at www.megaupload.com.
    Just select your file, make any description, accept the "terms" and click on "send".

    you could also try to load a save-game a few turns before your crash happened and hopefully it won't happen again.

    Anyway, I may have found several errors which may be reasons for crashes.
    This will be fixed in the first patch which I will make in the next few days.

    Winner of 'Favorite M2TW Mod' and 'Favorite M2TW Modder' Award 2007 & 2008

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    thanks for the answers, just starting over i guess, it is verry addicting this mod. i am willing to help but i am a kind of dumb when it comes to computers. i searched for the system log but i don not have logss folders in my medieval total war. I do the following: i go my computer, program files, sega, medieval total war....searched everywhere but now systemlogs... am i searching on the wrong place or could it be that i have vista.

    So the same question goes for the save game i wish to upload. How can i find the save game goes i dint run into save games in my searching gampaign for the system log. Guess i am doing something verry wrong.

    thanks for the reply and again great mod
    (hows idea was it to juse the anthem song of 'Last of the mohicans' in the menu screan verry verry cool idea.

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    Reinoldus, I see you have the same problem

    I posted my case on another thread , it is very similiar to yours. I am also only a user, not a modder

    I will just repeat what happened : I played 2 campaigns with Poland , 1 Early Era and 1 Late Era , both gave me CTD after 100 turns ( Early Era after 129 turns, and Late Era after 143 turns). Even when I got back to my "Saved Game" , and I save my game after 4-5 turns usually, and I tried to play different than before, the CTD occuried no matter what I did...

    Another thing which could be important for KingKong and other modders of SS 6.0 : AI turns , that means after you press "End Turn" button , they are going very slow, much slower than in previous SS 5.1 or vanilla. My system is quite good, so it's not a CPU/RAM/GPU/Mobo issue , I just "feel" there is something wrong with AI on that "End Turn"... just a feeling

    P.S. I have not SS 5.1 on my system , I did a clean install of MTW2 and Kingdoms, than I installed SS 6.0.

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    I uploaded my saved game with the repeatable "Unspecified Error" CTD to Megaupload as instructed in King Kong's post. I was suffering the CTD during the AI English turn.

    I uploaded it unzipped so I hope that's not a problem.

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    Hello, I have uploaded a savegame for my england campaign which is crashing on turn 110:

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y41BN5LP

    I'm happy to help as a tester if any fixes come out!

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    Ok, first thanks for the great mod and all the work you´ve put into it.

    Unfortunately I had a CTD during my English campaign. I reinstalled the game and SS 6.0, but the crash still occurred. I´ve got no other mods installed, no cracked version and still playing with the 1.4 patch.

    Here´s my system log; hope this helps.

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    Default Re: ctd

    quick ask

    can people try loading the autosaved file and checking that the game still crashes in the same place please.

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    I DL'd kstainb's file mentioned above.

    I can confirm that it suffers a total BSOD, which is unrecoverable to desktop and needs hardware reset to recover.

    I tried using trace tools but nothing was able to be written to hard drive before crash.

    All I can tell is that the crash happens on the Fatimid turn (I toggled_fow to see what was happening on campaign map)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozanov View Post
    quick ask

    can people try loading the autosaved file and checking that the game still crashes in the same place please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rozanov View Post
    I DL'd kstainb's file mentioned above.

    I can confirm that it suffers a total BSOD, which is unrecoverable to desktop and needs hardware reset to recover.

    I tried using trace tools but nothing was able to be written to hard drive before crash.

    All I can tell is that the crash happens on the Fatimid turn (I toggled_fow to see what was happening on campaign map)

    I can confirm the same and it always happens on Fatimid turn.
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    Same here, downloaded the file crashes on the fatamid turn. I have the same problem with england only it's on turn 70 when Denmark is going to make his move. I hope it will be fixed soon...

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    Fatimid and CTD : indeed, in my Early Era Campaign with Poland it was the Fatimid turn when everything went black ( I checked 3 times today). In my second campaign, Late Era with Poland that "black screen of death" is occuring when Kievan Rus is making it's moves in turn 143 ( I checked 4 times today , just to be 100% sure)

    I tried a "fix" from another tread , some guy suggested that we should start with last saved game, go to console and type "toggle_fow", press enter and after that "End Turn". Well , it's not working in my case, still CTD as usual

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    OK I managed to capture the error behind the blank/black screen CTD It's a standard M2TW error and the problem is with triggers and events of fatimid faction characters trying to assassinate a non exisitng religion character of other factions... according to system.log



    I hope it helps the modders...
    Under the Patronage of Hadrian

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    Playing Genoa, I get a CTD (BSOD) on turn 143, no matter what previous save I use. I do know that when you get the BSOD, just hit enter which closes the error report that pops up under the black screen. Then you should go right to desktop. My log report is below:

    19:36:04.140 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
    19:36:04.140 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Feb 25 2008 version development ===
    19:36:04.234 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
    19:36:04.343 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
    19:36:04.453 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
    19:36:04.531 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
    19:36:04.609 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
    19:36:04.640 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
    19:38:19.203 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

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