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    A 17-year-old Iraqi girl has been murdered by her father in an 'honour killing' after falling in love with a British soldier in Basra, The Observer can reveal.
    Rand Abdel-Qader was killed after her family discovered she had formed a friendship with a 22-year-old infantryman she knew as Paul. Rand, who met the soldier while working on an aid project for displaced families, was suffocated by her father and then hacked at with a knife. All the time he was calling out that his honour was being cleansed, said Rand's mother.
    The father was arrested, held for two hours, then released without charge. 'Not much can be done when we have an "honour killing",' said Sgt Ali Jabbar of Basra police. 'You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws.'
    Rand's mother, who divorced her husband after the killing, is now in hiding from her family and being looked after by a local charity. 'She has been threatened by her husband's family and is very scared,' said a charity spokeswoman.
    An MoD spokesman said there was no official policy on advising troops how to behave with Iraqi women, indicating that Paul would not have been told that their friendship might be putting her life at risk. 'They are not told: don't go and fall in love.'
    Though this is believed to be the first 'honour killing' involving a British soldier, there were 47 such killings of young women in Basra last year, though only three convictions, said the Basra Security Committee.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008.../iraq.military

    Another senseless act committed in the name of Allah. I'm speechless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norge View Post
    Another senseless act committed in the name of Allah. I'm speechless...
    Iraq is now a bastion of freedom and democracy.

    Now if someone kills the soldier, it will be like Romeo and Juliet.

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    What exactly is the religious law he is talking about?


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    Uh why is he not charged again? From what it sounds like the police sgt basically just said "we're muslims what do you expect?"

    Nice way to paint his own religion.

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    Can someone point out what stimulating discussion is expected to happen here? All I see is responses condemning this killing, then responses saying "Iraq getting better my arse" then the inevitable clichéd discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Can someone point out what stimulating discussion is expected to happen here? All I see is responses condemning this killing, then responses saying "Iraq getting better my arse" then the inevitable clichéd discussion.
    Like a rabbit chewing over and over and over again..
    According to the Theory of War, which teaches that the best way to avoid the inconvenience of war is to pursue it away from your own country, it is more sensible for us to fight our notorious enemy in his own realm, with the joint power of our allies, than it is to wait for him at our own doors.

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    Kill the father.


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    I thought that the laws of the occupier (US) were the law in that country. I don't want to make this another Islam bashing thread, but those guys are yust stuck in medieval times. Really sad, poor girl....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_Since_1985 View Post
    I thought that the laws of the occupier (US) were the law in that country. I don't want to make this another Islam bashing thread, .
    2 L8! you just bashed Islam and the US. Oh you're in for it now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    2 L8! you just bashed Islam and the US. Oh you're in for it now...
    Lol, and I only wanted to bash Islam this time...

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    a british soldier died and it wasnt the fault of american friendly fire? ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    a british soldier died and it wasnt the fault of american friendly fire? ....
    I know. WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    a british soldier died and it wasnt the fault of american friendly fire? ....
    Ha Ha?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiljan Arslan View Post
    Kill the father.

    Seconded.

    "Honor Killings" are murder. The father should be tried for murder and sentenced accordingly. If Islam is such a peaceloving religion, why is this legal in Islamic law? This is evil, not just. There is nothing justifiable about an honor killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norge View Post
    A 17-year-old Iraqi girl has been murdered by her father in an 'honour killing' after falling in love with a British soldier in Basra, The Observer can reveal.
    Rand Abdel-Qader was killed after her family discovered she had formed a friendship with a 22-year-old infantryman she knew as Paul.
    Why is there no outrage about this filthy British pedophile in the army!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    Why is there no outrage about this filthy British pedophile in the army!!
    I hope you are joking and if not WTF seriously WTF is wrong with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    Why is there no outrage about this filthy British pedophile in the army!!
    Dude chill down, the article say she fell in love with the guy, not that they had sex. Besides where I come from "love" between people who are 17 and 22 is not a big deal, unlike in certain "other" country it's very normal that "older" guys take "younger" girls children as their bride...

    EDIT: Three angry replies in yust one minut... lol

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    Where I come from, the civilized ol' USA, its a crime, not love.

    I don't know how it is in Britain or Iraq.

    17 and 22 is a huge difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    Why is there no outrage about this filthy British pedophile in the army!!
    I thought they were friends??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    Why is there no outrage about this filthy British pedophile in the army!!

    If he was Muslim ,he could marriage with 8 years old girl,midle west are really a land of retardeds.He just have 5 years more.http://yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=1145&p=front&a=2
    Last edited by pajomife; April 27, 2008 at 05:37 PM.

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    A five year age difference isn't that bad....But it seems having a huge age difference between spouses isn't unheard of in Muslim society. Apparently Muhammad married a 17 year old and a 20 year old when he was 61. He also married his cousin but I won't go into detail about that.

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