Raynald of Chatillon got captured

[locc2]

And the Ayyubids released him, though I can't find him on the map (he does not exist, yet he was released). Must be a bug? :hmmm:

[whhyy]

So I'm assuming you have checked the character scroll... Have you??

[locc2]

Yes I have. He is just kapput. Very sad since he fought bravely and it was Saladin himself that captured him (really).

[Deep_Red]

Maybe he´s dancing around somewhere...
You know, he is insane in a completely new grade...

[Erwin Rommel]

WHAT!!

no slashing on the throat by a scimitar thing while drinking water

[locc2]

Maybe he didn't find it back home. Must be hard travelling back from Gaza badly wounded, especielly since they didn't have cars or a busses at this time.

Also, just a question, is not the family tree lacking some people? Raymond de Tripoli and Balin de Ibelin (and his wife and kid, got a message about "a new member in the family") is not in my family tree. Aren't they suppose to be? :hmmm:

[Brammius]

Probably because they are just generals, though I ain't sure.

[Manco]

jep, they're just generals, not family members

[Taneda Santôka]

Use the show_cursorstat, it will give you x,y coordinates, then move_character "x x" x,y commands, if he's still around he'll appear at coordinates x,y...

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

*Raynald wakes up outside of Samarqand*

"What the hell?!"

[locc2]

I can't bring up the consol with ~ or @

Nothing happens.

[Faris ad Din]

*Raynald wakes up outside of Samarqand*

"What the hell?!"

I wrote some foolery, but it may be quite off topic and corny so I put it in a spoiler. Read at your own risk!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

About fifty turns into the game, KoJ is doing swell and just captured Edessa. Balian marches on towards Mardin when he notices it's not ruled by the Abbasids or Georgians or Seljuks...

"ShaKingSultImamPiredom of Raynald Chatillonocracy, Inc."

Balian: !@*&^*!#@????
Baldwin: This does not look good, Baley...
Balian: The banners are pink.
Baldwin: Just don't ask.

*The two men ride off with a small guard towards the city, where they are greeted cordially by guards dressed in pink robes, kilts and stockings and given complimentary cow dolls.*

Baldwin: You don't think this is the idea of...
Balian: Don't ask.

They ride towards the city hall where they give their names to the governor, and some time later a short plump man with orange and white hair (more white than orange now) runs out and embraces them both.

Reynald: I've missed you two boys! Wait till I tell you everything!
Balian: Yeah, just what we need.
Baldwin: *elbows Balian* No, just what we do not need.
Balian: *continues on in spite of warning* Uh, okay, what happened since you were captured by Salah ad-Din? He told us that he released you, but we were never able to find you and we assumed that you perished in the desert on the way back.
Reynald: Oh no, I wound up near Samarqand. I made friendly with the locals and made heaps of money marketing cow dolls. Would you like one? *Reynald gestures to a courtier, similarly dressed as the guards, and with a wide grin brings up a large sack of cuddly stuffed bovines of various colors and designs*
Balian: *looks at Balian with a strange look and addresses Reynald* Uh, no man, we're fine. We're already set...
Reynald: Sure thing, just ask anytime for more, we come up with three new designs a year to keep 'em coming. So... I built up this business like no tomorrow, and the Shah was starting to get pissy. So he attacked our business with 5 stacks of troops and I beat them all with my bodyguard.
Baldwin: Just your bodyguard?!?!?!?!?
Reynald: Yeah, just my bodyguard. We also changed our color to pink since every other color seemed to be claimed, and besides, it added shock value.
Balian: I can see that...
Reynald: Anyway, the Shah was defeated, but we couldn't lay siege to any of their towns with just my bodyguard. The Mongols arrived but I was able to bribe them in with just the proceeds from our exports to rebels.
Balian: You have trade with rebels???
Reynald: Yeah, I never started war with them. There's lots of profit to be made, my friend! Anyway, I bribed them in and just expanded as far as I could easily go, and destroyed the Ghorids, Ghaznavids, Solankis, and Seljuks. By the time the last Mongol was conveniently killed off in battle and no more could be recruited we created an empire larger than any of the nations around so I decided to combine all the names into one so it's more proper. I'm now the ShaKingSultImamperor!"
Baldwin: You never were good in school were you. *Reynald happily and readily shakes his head no* Alright, I have few questions, but... kilts?
Reynald: My mother's second cousin was from Galicia, they have a nice Celtic culture going there. We were going to add bagpipes to our bands but our Council of Nobles didn't approve. As an emergent faction I got out of war with the rebels but I still got those dudes.
Balian: Okay, gotcha... you're not going to... attack us or anything right?
Reynald: No, of course not buddy! Just make sure to visit for our next line of dolls!
Baldwin: This has been the weirdest missing person story I have ever heard of.
Balian: Tell me about it...

[Taneda Santôka]

It's ù or % for me...

[kepper]

Raynald of Chatillon as gone to the twilit zone.

[zznɟ ǝɥʇ]

It fits his personality.

[TWmadman]

Please Please Please

RENAUD DE CHATILLON
not REYNALD OF CHATILLON

do not translate names.... i m not going to say Jean Noir if a person is called John Black

damned

[Faris ad Din]

Taken from prolific and unfaithful historical sources. From my exacting memory, he was named Reynald DE Chatillon in Age of Kings (Age of Empires 2), but Reynald OF Chatillon in Kingdom of Heaven.

Should we take the same argument to remaming a region Oultrejourdain (Outer Jordan) or the Kingdom of Armenia - Hayastan in the original Armenian language? Or instead of Kingdom of Jerusalem, 'Royaume de Jérusalem'? We'd carry it over to Richard III "Richard Cœur de Lion" ('ReeSHARD coor de leeYOHN') and of course Baldwin IV - 'Baudouin IV le lépreux' (bow-doo-AHN leh kwatre leh leh-PROO). But then again the Kingdom of Jerusalem did not really speak French but 'lingua franca' (tongue of the Franks), a common creole tongue derived mostly from Italian and mixed with other languages like French and perhaps German.

If we really want to be faithful to the original language it'd have to be "Renaud de Châtillon" with an 'accent circonflexe'.

There are other inaccuracies in BC, and not because the team was negligent but because they are adapting history to a game. King Baldwin was probably a teenager in 1187 and Balian de Ibelin an older man than he is.

The point is that BC took a lot from the movie Kingdom of Heaven to create the Kingdom of Jerusalem - character portraits, unit depictions, whatnot. If you want to hew to accuracy then it is a much bigger task than simply correcting names to their original. And I am a BIG fan of making names as close to the original as possible: Calcutta is pronounced most accurately as "Kolkata" by the locals, although just about all non-Indians pronounce it "Calcutta." All Germans pronounce it München (MÜN-shen or MÜN-khyen) but other people call it "Munich." Saladin was pronounced "Salahuddin" (as it is in BC) but everybody else calls him "Saladin." Tamerlane (derived from "Timor the Lame") was pronounced by all the Persians/North Indians/Arabs as Timor ("تيمور" or 'tymwr' in either language, meaning "iron" in Chagatai) but more people know him as "Tamerlane" than not.

I do not take issue with changing the name closer to the original, but you can keep going with it forever. RELAX!