castle to fortress, etc

[spanish_emperor]

anyone know how much population it takes for a wooden castle to be able to upgrade to a castle and then to fortress, etc
the same with cities?

[TempestKhan]

your best choice in my own experiance is either to convert a castle to a large town then just set the tax on low then dont build stone walls when they cry out for it an when the pop cap have gone sky high i upgrade em to castle that way they ask for fortress upgrade right after.... the growt rate on castle is just too low to ever get a citadel or fortress in the first 100 turns lol sad but true something they should fix if u ask me its really expensive to convert your castle in that method i just said to get your damn fortress up an running

[Marcus Fulvius]

your best choice in my own experiance is either to convert a castle to a large town then just set the tax on low then dont build stone walls when they cry out for it an when the pop cap have gone sky high i upgrade em to castle that way they ask for fortress upgrade right after.... the growt rate on castle is just too low to ever get a citadel or fortress in the first 100 turns lol sad but true something they should fix if u ask me its really expensive to convert your castle in that method i just said to get your damn fortress up an running

not true. yea, getting a citadel is impossible... but so long as you build farms before anything else, and upgrade them before upgrading anything else, you can get a fortress before 100... same for a huge city.

especially if you start with a fort, like palermo... but even if its only a castle like nottingham, its still doable... just gimps your war machine a little because you gotta put off making military structures until after the farms are built.

from my games it seems like huge cities are 30000 pop, citadels are 15000, forts are 10000, large cities are 20000, castles are 15000, cities are 15000, and so on down.

[s0meguy]

For some reason the AI seems to get fortresses much earlier than the player... It's been several times, I'm not even close to fortress and they have multiple of them. Maybe its a difficulty bonus. Anyway, castle->fortress= 7500 pop and citadel is like 12000 i think.

[spanish_emperor]

hmm, sound good.

but anyone know the exact population?

[twp127]

2500 for wooden C to Castle

think it was 7500 to fortress but can't remeber

[TempestKhan]

yep its 7500 for fortress an about 12000 for citadel

[Nick_Since_1985]

Put a high Chivalry general in you castle to speed things up...

[jo_dus]

yep its 7500 for fortress an about 12000 for citadel

Thought it was 15000 for a Cit.

[spanish_emperor]

one more question. If i have a city with 7500 population will it, when i convert to castle, change to fortress or remain in the equivalent level of city which is castle.

thanks

[TempestKhan]

u have to first change to castle then u will be able to upgrade it to fortresss

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

Spanish Emperor...If you hover your cursor over the population, you can see how much it is until next upgrade.

You knew this, right?

[spanish_emperor]

Spanish Emperor...If you hover your cursor over the population, you can see how much it is until next upgrade.

You knew this, right?

Thank you i remember there was something like this but i couldn't remember since i hadn't played the game for so long that i had forgotten.
It was exactly what i was looking for


Thanks to everybody

[shenryyr]

fastest way to get big castles(fortress + citadel) is to let the computer controlled factions own them all, take only cities for yourself and hire plenty of castle-like mercenaries. then when you see one large enough, go take it.

[Naked Emperor]

The best way to get fast growth in castles is to put high chivalry generals there. A general with 10 in chivalry gives +5% growth.

Also build first farms and chapel also helps with it's 5% health bonus.