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    hi!

    I'm pleased to use my 1000st post for this announcement.

    Anno 1380 is a submod that shall bring a new "Provincial Campaign" (like the Late Era Campaign) to you.

    It starts in the year 1380 (as the name already says) and it will and in 1560. The turnspace is 0.5 turns per year, which means the complete amount of turns is at 360 turns per campaign.

    The mod starts with the battle of Kulikovo, which was a decisive victory for the Russians against the Mongols and after it, Moscow arised as one of the most powerful Russian Grand Duchies.

    Factions:
    Catholic:
    Portugal
    Spain
    Aragon
    France
    Ireland
    Scotland
    England
    HRE
    Norway
    Denmark
    Poland
    Genoa
    Venice
    Sicily
    Papal States
    Teutonic Order
    Hungary
    Kingdom of Jerusalem (Kingdom of Cyprus)

    Orthodox:
    Novgorod
    Moscow (through script renamed Kievan Rus)
    Byzantium (as far as there's anything left of it)
    Cumans

    Muslim:
    Moors
    Ayyubids
    Seljuks
    The Golden Horde

    Pagan:
    Lithuania

    Problems of the Era (and for the player):
    -The cities are huge but empty, as the Black Plague just moved through the land
    -More and better Rebels than in the Late Era campaign, as many duchies became independent in the Era (especially the HRE was weakened)
    -The Mongols own a huge part of Europe. Their armies are everywhere across the land but they are weak. They have vassals (like Lithuania), but those vassals have the hugest potential to become their deadliest enemy.
    -All cities are highly developed and well defended, which requires even huger and better planned invasions.

    (to be continued/improved, I got something more in my mind)

    But:
    To do this I need a few researchers for exact starting positions, starting armies and royal families.
    Help is welcomed.


    this is a small project that will help me not to lose all my modding abilities completely, as I got less time at the moment through school issues and this will bring a new provincial campaign to you. But this doesn't mean I'll work with less enthusiasm on it.

    Cheers and thanks,
    Nevada
    Last edited by Nevada; April 26, 2008 at 02:58 AM.



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    But:
    To do this I need a few researchers for exact starting positions, starting armies and royal families.
    Help is welcomed.
    Byzantines:

    Regions: Constantinople, Mystras

    John Palaiologos is the faction leader; he should be in Constantinople with a poor army. Married to Helena.

    Manuel (30 Y/O) should be the faction heir. He should be a 4 star general with a decent army besieging Thessalonica (Ottoman) at the start. He should have slightly lowered loyalty and the "Hates the Turks" trait.

    Theodore (25 Y/O) should be the governor of Mystras. He should be a decent general (5/6 stars) with a few good units.


    Seljuks should be the Ottoman Empire, Egypt should be the Mameluke Sultanate, Kwarezm should be gone.

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    The Ottomans should start with Canakkale, Nicaea, Thessalonica (under siege by Manuel), Adrianople (the capital), Sinop, Ankara. Sofia (Rebel controlled) should be under siege.

    The Ottomans should be the most powerful faction on the map at this point. They should have strong, experienced troops in all of their cities. There should also be a mid-sized army near Belgrade.

    Murat should be the Sultan. He should have high authority, high chivalry, mid-piety, and mid-high command. He should lead a mid-sized army near Belgrade at the start. Married to Gulcicek.

    Bayezid should be the faction heir and governor of Nicaea.

    Yakub Osman should be governor of Thessalonica, son of Murat.

    Ibrahim Osman should be governor of Adrianople.

    Savci Osman shold be governor of Ankara.

    The rest of Anatolia should be rebel controlled (representing small Turkish principalities and Trebizond) except for Adana, which should be owned by The Mamelukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Tiberius View Post
    Byzantines:

    Regions: Constantinople, Mystras

    John Palaiologos is the faction leader; he should be in Constantinople with a poor army. Married to Helena.

    Manuel (30 Y/O) should be the faction heir. He should be a 4 star general with a decent army besieging Thessalonica (Ottoman) at the start. He should have slightly lowered loyalty and the "Hates the Turks" trait.

    Theodore (25 Y/O) should be the governor of Mystras. He should be a decent general (5/6 stars) with a few good units.


    Seljuks should be the Ottoman Empire, Egypt should be the Mameluke Sultanate, Kwarezm should be gone.

    Didn't Byzantium still hold Trebizond at that point? Even if they do, it would be hard to utilize.

    Please return the Timurids to your campaign. Their attack on the rear of the Ottoman empire kept Constantinople alive a while longer. I don't want to beat the Ireland horse again, but the Timurids have far more of a place in a 1380 mod...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darviathar View Post
    Didn't Byzantium still hold Trebizond at that point? Even if they do, it would be hard to utilize.

    Please return the Timurids to your campaign. Their attack on the rear of the Ottoman empire kept Constantinople alive a while longer. I don't want to beat the Ireland horse again, but the Timurids have far more of a place in a 1380 mod...
    Trebizond had been out of Imperial control since 1204 when David Komnenos with the help of the Kingdom of Georgia seized it during the chaos of the fourth crusade and established the Empire of Trebizond, which although it maintained Byzantine culture, wasn't a part of the empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Tiberius View Post
    Trebizond had been out of Imperial control since 1204 when David Komnenos with the help of the Kingdom of Georgia seized it during the chaos of the fourth crusade and established the Empire of Trebizond, which although it maintained Byzantine culture, wasn't a part of the empire.
    So , would they be better off as a rebel faction, surely to be quickly swallowed by the Turks, or an isolated Byzantine outpost ? I know that Trebizond and Mistra outlived Constantinople.

    Either way, I'd enjoy this late-era mod a lot if the proper factions are featured. With a lot of early factions no longer necessary (Cumans, as was pointed out earlier. also Kiev), there is certainly room to bring the Timurids back without taking Ireland out, now that I think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darviathar View Post
    So , would they be better off as a rebel faction, surely to be quickly swallowed by the Turks, or an isolated Byzantine outpost ? I know that Trebizond and Mistra outlived Constantinople.

    Either way, I'd enjoy this late-era mod a lot if the proper factions are featured. With a lot of early factions no longer necessary (Cumans, as was pointed out earlier. also Kiev), there is certainly room to bring the Timurids back without taking Ireland out, now that I think about it.
    They'd definitely be better as a rebel faction.

    As for changing factions, I'm not sure if Nevada's able to do it without altering the early and late campaigns as well.

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    thanks for the info, I hope for more!

    on the renaming of factions: I currently try to achieve this without changing the names in the other campaigns.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada View Post
    thanks for the info, I hope for more!
    No problem.

    Even though Jerusalem isn't on your factions list, if you wanted to include it:

    Regions: Cyprus

    Peter (age 25) is the king, he's pretty average in all regards. His wife is named Valentina.

    James (46) is the faction heir - he's Peter's uncle and a decent commander, though certainly nothing special. He has a 5 year old son named Jean by his wife, Eleanor.

    James' brother, Peter's II father, is also named Peter. Peter I and James' father was Hugh, Hugh and Peter I are deceased.

    Prince James would probably be in a fort somewhere towards the northeast side of the island while Peter's in Nicosia with a weak garrison.

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    Default Re: [ProvincialCampaign]Anno 1380 (In development)

    Nice idea.

    Some suggestions:
    - I agree with Maurice, maybe Kingdom of Jerusalem or Templars could be remade to the Kingdom of Cyprus?
    - Sicily should be made a vassal to Aragon, due to the heavy influence and support from Aragon(Also Sicily only rules the Island itself by this time).
    - Norway and Denmark was in a union by this time (should be called 'Union of Denmark and Norway', not the Kalmar Union yet), the king was Olav Haakonsson (10 years old by this time, but obviously he would have to be made 18).
    Last edited by hekk; April 26, 2008 at 03:13 AM.

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    thanks for the ideas, i actually didn't think about cyprus^^

    @hekk: thanks for the political info, i'm currently trying to be able to rename factions without wasting a factionslot and influencing the other campaigns.



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    Excellent, I have been hoping someone would do a late-era campaign.

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    Excellent, I have been hoping someone would do a late-era campaign.
    me too, so I thought "you can mod, why don't you do one on your own?"

    and here it is^^

    and on the norway and denmark union:
    They weren't yet the Kalmar Union and i don't want to bring that faction in now.
    so would it be possible to unite them as denmark or as norway?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada View Post
    and on the norway and denmark union:
    They weren't yet the Kalmar Union and i don't want to bring that faction in now.
    so would it be possible to unite them as denmark or as norway?
    I suppose you could just leave out the Norway faction and give their regions to Denmark and rename them to Union of Denmark and Norway and refer them as Dano-Norwegians?

    Both factions would do to represent the Union, but I'd go for Denmark because I personally prefer their skins.

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    Excellent idea... I've been wanting a LATE late SS campaign for awhile.

    An idea - the Knights Hospitaller controlled the island of Rhodes as an indepedent state at that time. Might want to re-name the Templaers, touch them up as Hospitallers, and place them in Rhodes.

    Also, weren't the Cumans basically destroyed by then, and absorbed by the Mongols and Hungary?

    Anyway, great idea - I look forward to it.

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    Excellent idea... I've been wanting a LATE late SS campaign for awhile.
    thanks

    An idea - the Knights Hospitaller controlled the island of Rhodes as an indepedent state at that time. Might want to re-name the Templaers, touch them up as Hospitallers, and place them in Rhodes.
    i also thought about that and I think I'll do it this way.

    Also, weren't the Cumans basically destroyed by then, and absorbed by the Mongols and Hungary?
    I wasn't sure, that's why I need researchers^^

    I suppose you could just leave out the Norway faction and give their regions to Denmark and rename them to Union of Denmark and Norway and refer them as Dano-Norwegians?
    I wanted to do it this way, but I wanted it to be represented by the more powerful one.

    Both factions would do to represent the Union, but I'd go for Denmark because I personally prefer their skins
    damned, I prefer norway^^

    A small progressupdate:
    I finished startingpositions as far as i could figure them out.

    Armies still need to be placed and I still couldn't find out how to change the name of a faction without wasting a faction slot, like with the kalmar union.



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    Armies still need to be placed and I still couldn't find out how to change the name of a faction without wasting a faction slot, like with the kalmar union.
    go to the expanded.txt in data\text\
    there you can change faction name
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    go to the expanded.txt in data\text\
    there you can change faction name
    I know, but this would affect the rest of the campaigns, so I dont want to do it this way.



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    those are the current starting positions in the southeastern part of the map, I hope it fits that far.
    Knights Templar have Rhodes and the Kingdom of Jerusalem has Cyprus.

    Perhaps i should give the Iraq to the Mongols.



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    Looking forward to this, the late era is IMHO the most interesting in terms of tactical matchups and innovations on the battlefield.

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