Allies and crusades

[s0meguy]

Can somebody tell me how to edit the game so that my allies that I have good relations with don't join crusades against me?

[Quark]

s0meguy
Well, you could write a rule in the campaign Ai to do this, but how would you stop the player doing the same thing?

[s0meguy]

By giving the player a large reputation penalty when they join a crusade against their allies... Not that I would join a crusade against my allies in the first place.

[User Name]

I have noticed this also it doestn matter how long youve been allied to someone as soon as the old fart wants you dead they will turn on you.

[s0meguy]

Bump

[DireklianCliff]

I can't tell you how to do this (as I don't know), but even if it is possible, it will most likely be difficult to do so. I'm pretty sure it's hardcoded into the game that christian factions will join crusades. I would just suggest not getting excommunicated in the first place.

Oh yes, I shall assume you're a christian faction.

[Antiochos VII Sidetes]

Pfft. Staying in with the pope is easy-when he calls crusade on Jerusalem, join it and win, get lots of favor, then give the city to him. And then you get more favor. End of story. Rinse and repeat, because with that amount of favor you can call MORE crusades.

[DireklianCliff]

As a general rule I don't hand any territory to the Papal States. That's gotten out of hand for a friend of mine before where the Pope just expanded in all directions lol. But it is pretty easy to stay in with the Pope. If all else fails, just build a Cathedral or two (or one Huge Cathedral). Bam. Instant perfect rep.

[User Name]

Well thats fine if your a catholic faction but for eastern europeans its not really an option.

[shenryyr]

it just blows my mind that you want your allies to not go on a crusade against you. alliances in the medieval times were not rock solid.

[melancholic]

it just blows my mind that you want your allies to not go on a crusade against you. alliances in the medieval times were not rock solid.

Just as they are not now. Although there are more penalties now than then.

But it's nice to ease the pressure a little bit and keep alliances for the future.

[s0meguy]

it just blows my mind that you want your allies to not go on a crusade against you. alliances in the medieval times were not rock solid.

I'm not even saying that, I want the AI with which I have good relations to not join the crusade.. that's all, would kinda make sense that they don't, right?

[shenryyr]

I'm not even saying that, I want the AI with which I have good relations to not join the crusade.. that's all, would kinda make sense that they don't, right?

Maybe on easy setting? I honestly don't think it's a good idea though. The point of being a catholic faction is to stay good with the pope. Some people don't like to do that, heck killing the pope used to be a turn-by-turn past-time of mine once capturing Rome, but in 6.0 it's easier to expand by attacking only excommunicated catholic factions. With the pope against you, you can be in for a world of trouble. If you don't want that trouble, don't get the pope against you.

[s0meguy]

Maybe on easy setting? I honestly don't think it's a good idea though. The point of being a catholic faction is to stay good with the pope. Some people don't like to do that, heck killing the pope used to be a turn-by-turn past-time of mine once capturing Rome, but in 6.0 it's easier to expand by attacking only excommunicated catholic factions. With the pope against you, you can be in for a world of trouble. If you don't want that trouble, don't get the pope against you.

Sigh... let me word it easier for you: what if you have more to gain (or less to lose) by staying allied, instead of joining a crusade? Doesn't matter to the AI, they just join the crusade.

[shenryyr]

Sigh... let me word it easier for you: what if you have more to gain (or less to lose) by staying allied, instead of joining a crusade? Doesn't matter to the AI, they just join the crusade.

melancholic put it very nicely. religion was /huge/ to people back then. heck, it still is to millions of people now.

if you found out your best friend backstabbed your lord, you might want to do something about it.

[s0meguy]

Lol all of you are thinking I play a catholic faction but actually I'm the byzantines.

[User Name]

I dont mind my allies turning on me for a crusade thats y I always piss off the old man. It just sucks sometimes when youve been BFF u know like 120 turns and then pow bam boom straight in the back. It just hurts so much.

[shenryyr]

I dont mind my allies turning on me for a crusade thats y I always piss off the old man. It just sucks sometimes when youve been BFF u know like 120 turns and then pow bam boom straight in the back. It just hurts so much.

video games r srs biznezz

[User Name]

LOL

[s0meguy]

Well.. if your empire dwarfed mine, we had been allies from the beginning of the game, I saved your ass from the pope, our relations are good would you still join a crusade against me?