The Netherlands.

[Inhuman One]

No, this is not a request to include the Netherlands as a faction.

Its just a serious mistake I like to point out.

While Groningen definatly wasnt nearly as important as Utrecht at the time, it still was not located in the province of Friesland, even while it has been placed there on the map.

Groningen needs to be moved some to the right, about under the fifth island. (schiermonnikoog)

Seeing half of the Netherlands being called Friesland makes no sense either. There are 7-8 provinces in that region, and Friesland definatly was not that important.

Maybe it would be best that Utrecht becomes the city of this region, and changing the borders a bit as well since a part of germany is put in this province as well and that makes even less sense.

The docks could be put at Amsterdam, they had quite a shipyard there I believe.

[s0meguy]

No, this is not a request to include the Netherlands as a faction.

Its just a serious mistake I like to point out.

While Groningen definatly wasnt nearly as important as Utrecht at the time, it still was not located in the province of Friesland, even while it has been placed there on the map.

Groningen needs to be moved some to the right, about under the fifth island. (schiermonnikoog)

Seeing half of the Netherlands being called Friesland makes no sense either. There are 7-8 provinces in that region, and Friesland definatly was not that important.

Maybe it would be best that Utrecht becomes the city of this region, and changing the borders a bit as well since a part of germany is put in this province as well and that makes even less sense.

The docks could be put at Amsterdam, they had quite a shipyard there I believe.

The Frisians were pretty significant because they rebelled against the HRE, who owned the land most of the time. But yeah I agree about the location of Groningen, but it didn't bother me that much...

Oh and I don't think that Amsterdam had a very large dock... the canal that connects Amsterdam to the north sea was only recently dug I believe (last few 100 years that is). If Amsterdam or a town on that location did actually exist back then that is... I suppose it really depends on whether you play the early or late campaign.

[shenryyr]

I agree some places need to be moved, with name changes and conversions castle->city or city->castle. In fact I'll make a thread for it. Can you repost your suggestion there?

[Inhuman One]

Amsterdam did exist, same goes for rotterdam. in the early era they didnt have city rights yet though.

Utrecht was important and its importance grew, Dort was an important trade hub but lost its importance over time.

I know that Frisians rebelled against pretty much anyone, be it romans, french, HRE or whatsoever. Still, Friesland has never been bigger than it is today. It definatly didnt span the half of the Netherlands and a part of germany.

[gewehr36]

The same could be argued about for almost any region in the game. And fixing this now would require making a new map.

[Inhuman One]

I see it as a rather serious mistake though, my country may not be included, but at least the borders and city locations could be more accurate.

[gewehr36]

I see it as a rather serious mistake though, my country may not be included, but at least the borders and city locations could be more accurate.

The same could be said by anyone from any country. I didn't complain when CA made the US extremely inaccurate.

[Chim]

The same could be said by anyone from any country. I didn't complain when CA made the US extremely inaccurate.

Probably because you never played a campaign long enough or even bothered to get there.

I'll upload A minor settlement shift tomorrow.

[gewehr36]

Probably because you never played a campaign long enough or even bothered to get there.

I'll upload A minor settlement shift tomorrow.

I did many times.

[Clayton Gold]

The same could be argued about for almost any region in the game.

X2 - I prefer balance over historical accuracy.