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    Default Taking over the world.

    I think it actually posible. But not by force.
    Anyone with a brane can clearely see that the time of wars is over.
    Now all people are interested in is money, they'll do anything for it.

    So...... Could a large corporation, supported by a rich country, start taking over small corporations, creating monopoly after monopoly, spreading to every developed country in the world, taking over vital resources......
    After the enitial succes the corporation and its benefactor could have enormous influence, witch they could use to forge trieties and keep growing.
    At some point they should hold enough power to literally rulle the world.

    So, is this actually possible?
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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    Doubt it. There are bound to be countries which oppose foreign intervention in their economy, especially if they noticed the corporation becoming too powerful. And what would be the benefits for a corporation to expand in that manner?

    I think it's unlikely to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II View Post
    I think it actually posible. But not by force.
    I heartily disagree.

    Anyone with a brane can clearely see that the time of wars is over.
    Really...

    Now all people are interested in is money, they'll do anything for it.

    So...... Could a large corporation, supported by a rich country, start taking over small corporations, creating monopoly after monopoly, spreading to every developed country in the world, taking over vital resources......
    Not in America.

    After the enitial succes the corporation and its benefactor could have enormous influence, witch they could use to forge trieties and keep growing.
    At some point they should hold enough power to literally rulle the world.
    Are you implying they would rule the world financially? By having a monopoly over everything?


    So, is this actually possible?
    No. Even if they could monopolize the entire world, how would they plan on governing it, or imposing their will. Provided that they care about the political state of their country? To say a company can rule the world isn't a good way of putting it. A CEO of the world? Business is different than politics. Capitalism or Communism? What would be the state of the laws? Would global monopoly even mean global unity under one government?

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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    Really...
    When was the last major war (Americas trips to Asia dont count)?


    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    Not in America.
    And why not? America actually looks like one of the first targets.



    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    Are you implying they would rule the world financially? By having a monopoly over everything?
    Not everything per-se, just all the important stuf at first.



    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    No. Even if they could monopolize the entire world, how would they plan on governing it, or imposing their will. Provided that they care about the political state of their country? To say a company can rule the world isn't a good way of putting it. A CEO of the world? Business is different than politics. Capitalism or Communism? What would be the state of the laws? Would global monopoly even mean global unity under one government?
    It wouldnt be like a dictatorship or something, more like a republick.
    Where all of the worlds countries are financially bound to one state, if a country disobeys it will be economically cut-of from the rest of the world and most of its production facilities will be closed (by the company).
    And no one wants that.
    Born to be wild - live to outgrow it (Lao Tzu)
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    In contrast to the efforts of tiny Israel to make contributions to the world so as to better mankind, one has to ask what have those who have strived to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth done other than to create hate and bloodshed.

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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    what would be the point?
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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    to force humanity forward , to conserve our resources and to develop space travel if possible and if that proves totally impossible, to create a race of sentient and conscious machines which could carry our Law across the universe until the end of time.

    Machines that could cultivate life on all the worlds that they would touch in a billion years.

    grand schemes can only be accomplished if everyone is on board. I truly believe the purpose of humanity is to develop a superior form of life capable of existence in enviroments no flesh ever walked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    to force humanity forward , to conserve our resources and to develop space travel if possible and if that proves totally impossible, to create a race of sentient and conscious machines which could carry our Law across the universe until the end of time.

    Machines that could cultivate life on all the worlds that they would touch in a billion years.

    grand schemes can only be accomplished if everyone is on board. I truly believe the purpose of humanity is to develop a superior form of life capable of existence in enviroments no flesh ever walked.
    but wouldnt the cost of forcing the world to unite - and yes it would need force - outweigh any benefit in future co-operation, given the limited nature of the worlds resources?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaigidel View Post
    to force humanity forward , to conserve our resources and to develop space travel if possible and if that proves totally impossible, to create a race of sentient and conscious machines which could carry our Law across the universe until the end of time.

    Machines that could cultivate life on all the worlds that they would touch in a billion years.

    grand schemes can only be accomplished if everyone is on board. I truly believe the purpose of humanity is to develop a superior form of life capable of existence in enviroments no flesh ever walked.
    Oh God, no. It's like communism and scientology all rolled into one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pontifex_ View Post
    Oh God, no. It's like communism and scientology all rolled into one.


    break out the tin foil hats everyone! tom cruise is near and he's holding karl marx's communist manifesto!
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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    Time of wars is only over till SDI.
    according to exarch I am like
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    sure, the way fred phelps finds christianity too optimistic?

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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    I will build that bronze statue on the first of our generation ships as they set out to put thetans all over the universe into volcanoes~!!

    but seriously its where the evolution is taking us, you just dont realize, we have turned technology into our evolution, we dont need to be stronger, faster or smarter we can artificially create that soon, and then when the first sentient machines come into being we will be forced to contemplate the nature of a machine and the nature of the soul

    we will need to give these robots a strong faith to keep them on purpose

    but do you guys just want us monkeys toiling on this earth and using up all its stuff? or do you want us out there in the stars BURNING EVERYTHING!!!!

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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    When was the last major war (Americas trips to Asia dont count)?
    How can you possibly discount Vietnam?

    Well, there was the Indonesian National Revolution, the Korean War, Cambodian Civil War, Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, Yom Kippur War, Falklands War. Mind you, I'm just going by some of the highest death tolls. There's a full list below. Seemed to be quite a few wars in the 60s...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars

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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    It is impossible to take over the world without force; history already point out that human race is pure bastard and love to rebel anytime they can.

    Trust me, there would be people who willing to give up material life for exchange of freedom...

    Big corporations?? They would just bring down by angry hordes armed with AK anytimes.

    There are only two ways to unit all world - either beat everyone out of crap or make them believe United Earth is the best idea.

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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II View Post
    corporation, supported by a rich country, start taking over small corporations, creating monopoly after monopoly, spreading to every developed country in the world, taking over vital resources......
    Illegal in most western countries.

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    Default Re: Taking over the world.

    Neocolonialism is something similar to what you are referring to. But eventually there will be a movement to nationalize such industries and thus remove the company from the country. Unless the specific company uses force to retain its monopoly. Remember cant have true political freedom without economic freedom.

    Not every country has resources that are valuable or worth the trouble of trying to develop a monopoly. Then there is no interest for companies or a country to intervene in the politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octy View Post
    How can you possibly discount Vietnam?

    Well, there was the Indonesian National Revolution, the Korean War, Cambodian Civil War, Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, Yom Kippur War, Falklands War. Mind you, I'm just going by some of the highest death tolls. There's a full list below. Seemed to be quite a few wars in the 60s...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars
    No major wars then (betwin the BIG players), just big contries bullying small countries.
    Nuclear weapons and economic ties have eradicated "total war".


    Quote Originally Posted by Duke_of_Bavaria View Post
    Illegal in most western countries.
    What? Monopolies? It doesnt have to own everything, 90% of the shares is enough to controll a company without oficially taking over. (corect me if Im wrong)


    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Trust me, there would be people who willing to give up material life for exchange of freedom...
    Big corporations?? They would just bring down by angry hordes armed with AK anytimes.
    The mob doesnt have to know about this.
    Generally people are not interested with everything around them, they just wory about the bills, family, paycheck, etc.....
    Just keep them happy and destructed, while you controll everything behind the scenes.


    Quote Originally Posted by spartan117 View Post
    Not every country has resources that are valuable or worth the trouble of trying to develop a monopoly. Then there is no interest for companies or a country to intervene in the politics.
    But they still have (economical) ties with the outside world, so they are still under controll.
    Born to be wild - live to outgrow it (Lao Tzu)
    Someday you will die and somehow something's going to steal your carbon
    In contrast to the efforts of tiny Israel to make contributions to the world so as to better mankind, one has to ask what have those who have strived to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth done other than to create hate and bloodshed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II View Post
    I think it actually posible. But not by force.
    Anyone with a brane can clearely see that the time of wars is over.
    Now all people are interested in is money, they'll do anything for it.
    "The time of wars is over"?

    Do you not watch the news? If you do, what channel have you been watching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin the II
    So...... Could a large corporation, supported by a rich country, start taking over small corporations, creating monopoly after monopoly, spreading to every developed country in the world, taking over vital resources......
    After the enitial succes the corporation and its benefactor could have enormous influence, witch they could use to forge trieties and keep growing.
    At some point they should hold enough power to literally rulle the world.

    So, is this actually possible?
    Corporations are a legal fiction who only have existence and the means to form contracts or hold property so far as the laws of each nation-state recognise and enforce in their courts. If a country decides that a foreign corporation has too much power then it can simply pass a law seizing all of that corporation's assets, barring it from operating in their jurisdiction, and banning all of its own citizens from contracting with it abroad.

    So your answer is: No.

    It's that simple. In the final analysis all power still lies in the hands of government, simply because there is no other source of ENFORCEABLE law. Oh, international courts can release 'soft law' regulations as much as they like - applicable only in so far as people personally wish to follow them as guidelines. But ultimately meaningless in a crisis of power.
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    Nationalisation.
    According to the Theory of War, which teaches that the best way to avoid the inconvenience of war is to pursue it away from your own country, it is more sensible for us to fight our notorious enemy in his own realm, with the joint power of our allies, than it is to wait for him at our own doors.

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