How to Restore Original Wagons/Trade Fleets?

[cherryfunk]

My one serious complaint with 6.0 so far is the new models for trade wagons and trade fleets on the campaign map -- they look hideous, they're huge and clutter the roads/trade lanes and I think they're causing increased lag on the campaign map.

Does anyone know how to restore the original models?

[Willowmound]

Hideous?!

[s0meguy]

I'm pretty neutral towards them... maybe a bit too large...

[cherryfunk]

Yeah, in my opinion they're ugly, the original ones were cute and dainty. And what's with the rider trailing the wagon? The animation is jerky, and they keep bunching up and walking on top of each other. I don't think the engine knows how to handle larger wagons well, it just looks bad when you have a ton of them onscreen on a road with heavy trade.

[raloszet]

Cherryfunk,please post if renaming residences folder solved that problem.I havent found it in the game directories

[Chim]

Cherryfunk,please post if renaming residences folder solved that problem.I havent found it in the game directories

Renaming the whole folder is not a good idea because it will also disable castle textures and models.

[IZ-Master]

well this was a sub mod that was made for ss 5.1 where the maker reskined the siege , trade and trade fleet textures

if I remember right u need to replace the texture back to original ^^

[Chim]

My one serious complaint with 6.0 so far is the new models for trade wagons and trade fleets on the campaign map -- they look hideous, they're huge and clutter the roads/trade lanes and I think they're causing increased lag on the campaign map.

Does anyone know how to restore the original models?

Yes: the Drive:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data\models_strat\residences folder contains the models you are looking for.

Renaming or deleting (not recommended) these will force the engine to use vanilla's models.

I hope that helps you.

PS: I think that you need to rename the textures aswell.

[s0meguy]

Yes: the Drive:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data\models_strat\residences folder contains the models you are looking for.

Renaming or deleting (not recommended) these will force the engine to use vanilla's models.

I hope that helps you.

PS: I am not sure if you need to rename the textures aswell, so that is something you need to find out yourself.

All I can find there is siege, blockade and castle textures, same for the textures folder there...

[Chim]

All I can find there is siege, blockade and castle textures, same for the textures folder there...

That is what you want to edit out of the mod right?

[s0meguy]

That is what you want to edit out of the mod right?

No, just the trade ships

[Chim]

No, just the trade ships

In that case go here: Drive:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data\terrain\aerial_map

You will see the corresponding maps in this folder. Again: Rename them to disable them.

Do not take my words for granted though. I have not tested this method yet.

[Elchnase]

Yes: the Drive:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\Stainless_Steel_6\data\models_strat\residences folder contains the models you are looking for.

Renaming or deleting (not recommended) these will force the engine to use vanilla's models.

I hope that helps you.

PS: I think that you need to rename the textures aswell.

Hi Chimaeira !
Those trade wagons and ships make the campaign map painfully slow .
I tried to rename or delete the "Rizcu files"(I think the guy made that minimod) but all I get is a ctd . What am I doing wrong , could you please more specific what exact files I have to rename and does it matter how I rename then ?Sorry for the stupid question , I`m just not the brightest fellow when it comes to computers .Thanx in advance !

[Chim]

Hi Chimaeira !
Those trade wagons and ships make the campaign map painfully slow .
I tried to rename or delete the "Rizcu files"(I think the guy made that minimod) but all I get is a ctd . What am I doing wrong , could you please more specific what exact files I have to rename and does it matter how I rename then ?Sorry for the stupid question , I`m just not the brightest fellow when it comes to computers .Thanx in advance !

I did not expect you to understand my post right away as I was in a hurry, as a matter of fact I am in a hurry now aswell so I'll post what files to change tonight.

PS: try not to delete files unless you have made backups.

[Elchnase]

I did not expect you to understand my post right away as I was in a hurry, as a matter of fact I am in a hurry now aswell so I'll post what files to change tonight.

PS: try not to delete files unless you have made backups.

Hi Chimaeira !
Sorry bothering you again . I tried to get rid of those trade waggons and fleets myself in vain . Your help would be appreciated .

[cherryfunk]

Thanks Chimaeira, I'll try that.

Some comparisons:

The new wagons aren't too bad, but the rider following them just looks odd and gets 'swallowed up' by closely following wagons:



The older wagons are less distracting, due to their more neutral color, and don't jam up into each other as much since they don't have the rider following them:




The new trade fleets, though, are a serious step backwards in my opinion. They're giant, and instead of the beautiful white sails crossing the ocean, you get these weird ghostly grey hulks:



The old smaller trade fleets are far more attractive and less distracting:

[cherryfunk]

Chimaeira, worked perfectly!

+10 rep my man!

[spanish_emperor]

wow!! +10rep!!!

[Chim]

I'm glad it worked!

cherry, you showed some good points there I had not even noticed the big ships yet! I must admit that I do find them a bit odd, the old ones fitted the scale of the ports better.

[cherryfunk]

what do you mean by renaming?? what do i do. sorry im just confused.

Change the file extension, for example change 'file.dds' to 'file.dds_OLD' -- this way the engine doesn't recognize it as a dds file, but you can see that it is, and can quickly change it back by deleting the '_OLD' text.

cherry, you showed some good points there I had not even noticed the big ships yet! I must admit that I do find them a bit odd, the old ones fitted the scale of the ports better.

Yes, I agree, they fit better with the ports and the wagons -- the trade graphics should be 'in the background' I think, not as big or distinctive as the characters, fleets, etc.