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    Quote Originally Posted by Economist
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    Apr 17th 2008
    From The Economist print edition
    Could Brazil become as big an oil power as it is an agricultural one?


    OF ALL the commodities Brazil exports, oil has long been an afterthought. Its oil reserves were reckoned to be relatively modest: about 12 billion barrels at the beginning of 2007, according to BP, or about 1% of the world's total. But last year, Petrobras, Brazil's partly state-owned oil firm, announced the world's biggest oil discovery since 2000: the Tupi field, which it hopes will produce between 5 billion and 8 billion barrels.

    Now the head of Brazil's National Petroleum Agency (ANP) says another nearby discovery might hold as much as 33 billion barrels, which would make it the third-largest field ever found. That alone would be enough to raise Brazil to eighth position in the global oil rankings—if these estimates are correct.

    The ANP, which regulates Brazil's oil industry, was quick to distance itself from the remarks of its boss, Haroldo Lima. He spoke personally, not officially, it said, and reflected past reports in the media. Petrobras and its partners, BG of Britain and Repsol-YPF of Spain, said that they needed more tests to determine exactly how much oil it contained.

    But no one dismissed the estimate as preposterous. That, plus the fact that a senior official had given credence to such a dramatic number caused the shares of the three firms to jump, despite the fact that Mr Lima claims he does not even know where the stockmarket is, and certainly did not intend to influence it. At one point, Repsol was up by 14%.

    Both Tupi and the field mentioned by Mr Lima, Carioca-Sugar Loaf, lie beneath a thick layer of salt that is some 800km long and 200km wide. José Sérgio Gabrielli, Petrobras's boss, has hinted that there are vast reserves of oil to be found in this “pre-salt” formation. At any rate, Petrobras has struck oil every time it has drilled there. The firm's head of exploration says “there is practically no exploratory risk” in the area. Dilma Rousseff, its chairman, has breathlessly declared that Brazil will soon be on a par with Venezuela or Saudi Arabia.

    The government must be thrilled at the prospect of the revenue from the new fields. But they will take many years and huge sums to develop (drilling a single well at Tupi cost $240m). And the extra income may also accentuate many of the weaknesses of the Brazilian economy—including a strong real and an overweening public sector.
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    hmm all that oil right there, just discoverd. guess you wont need to invade the middle east for oil anymore...oh..opps too late

    what you say bushy?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred View Post
    hmm all that oil right there, just discoverd. guess you wont need to invade the middle east for oil anymore...oh..opps too late

    what you say bushy?

    DOH!


    Yeah, we certainly jumped the gun there. We should have started with brutal invasions and occupations of Canada and Mexico, then moved on to South America. By the time we got to Brazil, this would have happened, and there wouldn't have been an Iraq invasion because of all the oil we would then control! It's like a video game, amirite!?
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    I've already bought a Fez hat and taken two wives to prepare myself to this new era of economic prosperity and democratic effervescence
    Hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfootedfred View Post
    hmm all that oil right there, just discoverd. guess you wont need to invade the middle east for oil anymore...oh..opps too late

    what you say bushy?



    DOH!
    [sarcasm]brazil have mass destruction weapons hided.... invade invade invade[/sarcasm]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ataegina View Post
    [sarcasm]brazil have mass destruction weapons hided.... invade invade invade[/sarcasm]

    Well, the Brazilian military toyed with the idea of getting nukes until quite recently because they feared the Argentinians might get them as well. The issue was dealt with in the early '90s when Argentina and Brazil agreed to stop developing nuclear technologies with military purposes. If I'm not mistaken Chile also joined that treaty.

    Then a few years ago the current president had a few speeches in which he hinted at the possibility that Brazil might reconsider the issue. Some of the Brazilians think it's safer to own nukes not because of Argentina anymore but because of Venezuela and/or the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dromikaites View Post
    Then a few years ago the current president had a few speeches in which he hinted at the possibility that Brazil might reconsider the issue. Some of the Brazilians think it's safer to own nukes not because of Argentina anymore but because of Venezuela and/or the United States.
    :hmmm:It think they are already considered an "unofficial" nuclear state, something like Israel (only nowhere that strong).... i bet their nuclearisation is well underway


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    I was wondering why all you brazillian tarts were acting so uppity, this is clearly the reason, YOUR SITTING ON A GODDAMN GOLD MINE, call the police.

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    New oil reserves found in Brazil
    Good. I like Brazil.

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    they pay proper respect to the butt.

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    they pay proper respect to the butt.
    One of the few to pay it proper justice.

    (I'm referring to the female butt by the way)

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    Time to start learning how to speak portuguese?

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    Damn Brazilians, gettin all the luck

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    For s sake more oil!

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    Yeah a funny thing happens when the price of oil rises, people go looking for more.
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    Nuclearisation is not underway, for what I know. But OPEC is.

    I'm happy. More oil means we can continue our lifestyle of dismal waste, natural destruction and abundance for a few more decades before our cars run out of gas and the whole earth is turned into a giant desert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire le Philosophe View Post
    Nuclearisation is not underway, for what I know. But OPEC is.

    I'm happy. More oil means we can continue our lifestyle of dismal waste, natural destruction and abundance for a few more decades before our cars run out of gas and the whole earth is turned into a giant desert.
    I wouldn't be so optimistic, i bet WW3 starts well before the oil runs out...
    There has to be a redistribution of all the resources left - the "rogue states" simply hold too much of it


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    Yeeeeeeehaw. Didn't bother to read the long article but the topic pretty much says it all. Cheaper oil, yes please!

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    Damn Brazilians, gettin all the luck
    Most Brazilians are still poor as hell and I'd rather live here than there. Just give us your oil already damn it. It's not like you need it! Expoooort, it's good for you it's good for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke_of_Bavaria View Post
    Most Brazilians are still poor as hell and I'd rather live here than there. Just give us your oil already damn it. It's not like you need it! Expoooort, it's good for you it's good for me.
    Don't exaggerate, Duke. We're an upper middle-income country, lad. I'd hardly say that "most brazilians are still poor as hell" of a country whose middle class comprises around 68% of the population as of 2008. Not that this a big thing, since being middle-class here doesn't amount to much...

    Anyway, considering that size of our economy, I doubt that we'll turn into an oil exporter any time soon, since we'll need these reserves to keep ourselves independent from foreign oil prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Consul View Post
    We're an upper middle-income country.
    With no real significant export. I think your downplaying the significance of this find, if they can get to it.

    It will really vault you guys into a whole different category of country. Whatever you guys end up having to sell at, your country will be significantly more well off.
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