Questions About the 'Inspires Civil War' Trait

[cherryfunk]

I posted this in the SS forum, but I have a feeling the trait was in DLV first so I thought there might be fans here who can help me understand this trait...

I've been playing a campaign in SS 5.1 as the Crown of Aragon -- a very fun faction to play -- and things were going quite well, having just successfully beaten the HRE so badly that they came begging me for peace, which I, being a just and fair Christian king, of course agreed to (after the proper 'gifts' were demanded).

Suddenly my finances fell apart and 4 or 5 of my generals rebelled, taking their cities with them -- and several more now have the 'You are not my king!' trait, making them almost useless as I try to piece my empire back together.

I was looking around trying to find out what the heck had gone wrong when I saw my king has acquired this trait:

Inspires Civil War -- What was once a political divide between this King and his nobility has widened into a chasm... Some have chosen to follow their king... others have chose [sic] to kill him. Generals lose and gain much more loyalty now... WAR appears imminent! Your King's Authority is further in question than ever before.

First, I actually like this trait -- it's thrown a huge challenge into my campaign, just when I thought things were starting to get to the 'too easy and boring' stage. Plus, it's very historical -- this type of conflict happened all the time in history.

My question is -- are there specific triggers that lead to this trait appearing? Did my king screw something up, or is it just random chance that half his nobles hate him?

[Furin]

Low authority, low piety (or is subterfuge chivalry?) and/or not being crowned makes your king offend the nobles. Civil war is the second level of this trait as far as I understand it. There is an authority bug which makes generals with very high authority drop back to 1 (he has ten autority and gets one more, suddenly he has only 0). I get the Offensive_To_Nobles trait practically with every new king, even if I have already moved the heir into the capital previously. It's very frustrating as I have so little control if it happens or not.

[Aeon`]

Negative treasure and being excommunicated causes that, too.

But I don't know how it is in ss.

[Xtiaan72]

You can get rid of it by winning some battles with your king

[cherryfunk]

You can get rid of it by winning some battles with your king

D'oh! I waited for him to die...

[Xtiaan72]

Sometimes that's a good option...depends on how big your family tree is and how many nobles are disloyal....and how ready your heir is to take over ( Does he he have a lot of experience to have high authority)... cause your heirs can inherit the offends the nobility trait if a civil war is heating up.

What you do is put the disloyal nobles in the same stack as the king and win some battles... Their loyalty should improve especially if you win some big battles or really lopsided victories. Only problem is if you don't nip the rebellion in the bud this plan doesn't work cause you can't move the disloyal nobles....Then you are better off killing him.