cognomen: how what where??

[Valerius Tiberius]

hi,

1. i wanted to add/change cognomens.
only, i don't really know how to do that.
could someone explain me what files i need to edit?

2. can i make it so that a cognomen appears after the name, and that it doens't replace the name?

also, if someone could also explain how to add "Africanus" when a general takes Carthago, i got an anwser on this in an other thread, but it didn't fully understand it.

ps: i didn't find any tutorial/topic about this!!

tnx !!! + rep for anyone who helps me with this!!

Regards

Valerius Tiberius

[HouseOfHam]

I won't claim to know all the details, but I can give you an "in theory" hint:

Take a look at export_descr_character_traits.txt and search for "Epithet". The corresponding descriptions are in text\export_VnV.txt

You'll need to do 2 things:

1. Set up a new trait that has the Epithet you want
2. Add a trigger for the trait, like so:

Set up a monitor to give the general the trait when an event occurs, like so:

Trigger AfricanusTrigger
  WhenToTest GeneralCaptureSettlement

  Condition CultureType roman
       and SettlementName Carthago
       and isGeneral

  Affects AfricanusTrait 1 Chance 100

sorry, don't know about the 2nd question

[Valerius Tiberius]

tnx, but could you go a bit more into detail? tnx!!

also, could you anwser my 2nd question plz? tnx!!

Valerius Tiberius

[Squid]

Answer to the second question is no, the cognomen will always replace the last name.

[Valerius Tiberius]

damn so i can't have "Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus" ?

[HiiMmyself]

well, you could change the epithet of the trait to "Scipio Africanus"
that is always an option

example:

export_VnVs.txt

{Africanus_epithet_desc} Scipio Africanus

export_desc_VnVs_enums.txt

Africanus_epithet_desc

that should work...

[Valerius Tiberius]

well, you could change the epithet of the trait to "Scipio Africanus"

ofcourse, how stupid of me

tnx man, +rep!!

btw, sorry but could you explain veeeery clear on how to add epith "Cornelius Scipio Africanus"
with examples of [code] cause, i'm reall ynot good at modding (certainly not with epiths!!)
or give the link to a guide how to, cause i can't find one but i would rather like it if someone showed me

this would be rewarded with +rep for sure!! (unless you don't want it )

tnx and Regards

Valerius Tiberius

[Squid]

well, you could change the epithet of the trait to "Scipio Africanus"
that is always an option

Of course the one problem with that is every single character that acquires the epithet will be Scipio Africanus, which is probably not actually what you're after.

[Valerius Tiberius]

that's not really a problem, Carthage can only be conquered once (damn, what if it revolts?) but for the rest, it's almost 100% sure that Scipio will conquor it so no problem

plz read my previous post!!

[HiiMmyself]

Well, I guess I could explain:

Files needed:

export_VnVs.txt - C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data\text

export_descr_VnVs_enums.txt - C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data

export_desc_character_traits.txt - C:\Program Files\The Creative Assembly\Rome - Total War\data

Ok, if you are starting a trait from scratch, you MUST do this:

In your export_VnVs.txt add:

¬--------------------

{Africanus} Africanus

{Africanus_desc}
<Whatever you want>

{Africanus_effects_desc}
<attributs of trait>

{Africanus_lose_desc}
<lose description>

{Africanus_gain_desc}
<gain description>

{Africanus_epithet_desc} Scipio Africanus

In your export_desc_VnVs_enums.txt add:

Africanus
Africanus_desc
Africanus_gain_desc
Africanus_lose_desc
Africanus_epithet_desc

In your export_descr_character_traits.txt add:

;------------------------------------------
Trait Africanus
Characters family

Level Africanus
Description Africanus_desc
EffectsDescription Africanus_effects_desc
GainMessage Africanus_gain_desc
Threshold 1

Effect <effect> <level>

(NOTE: add this FORMER quote at the end of the traits secion)

At the very end of this document, add:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Africanus 1
WhenToTest GeneralCaptureSettlement

Condition CultureType roman
and SettlementName Carthage
and isGeneral

Affects AfricanusTrait 1 Chance 100

that should work...

[HiiMmyself]

I tried using my coding, and I realised that it does not work, and i know why, it is because I forgot to add the epithet to the export_descr_character_traits.txt

The first entry for that documetn should read:

;------------------------------------------
Trait Africanus
Characters family

Level Africanus
Description Africanus_desc
EffectsDescription Africanus_effects_desc
GainMessage Africanus_gain_desc
Epithet Africanus_epithet_desc
Threshold 1
Effect <effect> <level>

sorry for my error,

[Valerius Tiberius]

i'll try later and post if it worked tnx man!!!

+rep after i tried

REgards

Valerius Tiberius

[Valerius Tiberius]

well, i tried (got it all in)

and then to test, i started campaign, cheated him to Carthago (move_character "..." x,y) and then took carthage with cheats and auto fight (auto_win attacker/defender)

worked, i took Carthago (it's a mod so it says Carthago, yes i changed this in the files!!)

but then, nothing happened!!!

when i quit the game, it said
"script error in data export_descr_character_traits.txt
line 7707 column 1

unkown identifier for trait (Africanus) level (Africanus_epithet)
when expecting Threshold"

that's what it said!!

i first checked it out and thought that it was about the enter, in post #10 you have an enter before "effects, level" and in post #11 you don't.
i tried both and they both didn't work!!

what do i have to change??

tnx!!!!

Valerius Tiberius

[Squid]

If you copied what was posted above, the only thing I can see is that the trigger is refering to AfricanusTrait, while the trait is actually called Africanus. Any spacing in EDCT is completely ignored, and is only there for readability.

Aside from that, you can use the ATVTW trait/ancillary validator to find out what's wrong. Also it seems to think your epithet is a level instead of part of the previous level.

[Valerius Tiberius]

nope, didn't work, same message again!!

HIIMmyself, could you help plz?

[Squid]

If you post what's on line 7707 (and a few lines before and after it) of your EDCT file it would help figure out what the problem is.

And not to toot my own horn, but given I wrote/rewrote a large part of the ATVTW validator, and the Guide to Traits/Ancillaries, I probably know at least as much as HiiMmyself when it comes to trait stuff.

[Valerius Tiberius]

ow ok, sorry it's just because he wrote whole the thing and tried it

well, here we go:

        Effect TrainingUnits  1

;--------------------------------------------------

Trait Africanus
Characters family

Level Africanus
Description Africanus_desc
EffectsDescription Africanus_effects_desc
GainMessage Africanus_gain_desc
Epithet Africanus_epithet_desc
Treshold 1

Effects <effect> <level> 

;===============================================================
;== TRIGGER DATA STARTS HERE ==
;===============================================================
;Section1 - Combat

line 7707 is the "treshold" line
the message said column 1

post if you can help!!

[Valerius Tiberius]

ok, i misspelled "Treshold" it had to be "Threshold"

but now, after i changed it, i tried, and i conquored it, but when he said "Victory" and took it, i saw a message falling in the left side, but before the "occupy, enslave, exterminate" screen popped up, i got a CTD and NO message

ok, what's next?

i litterly tok over the code, could i be that i first had to add something??

Regards

Valerius Tiberius

[Squid]

Two things right off the bat:

1) On 7709 it should be Effect not Effects
2) If you're including an Effect line, it should have a valid effect, <effect> <level> isn't valid

And the problem that is causing the crash, is it's Threshold not Treshold.

Had you run the validator it would have found that error, in fact the validator would have given you the following error message:

7707 - Error: Expecting Threshold - Found Treshold

[HiiMmyself]

Well ,and that was not at my falt, for you can see that was not my error. I will try putting in my work and see what happens, k, then I will report back, because I think it will work.

Also notice, in my post with the <effect> and <level> it is so that you choose the effect and level..... it is bolded. O dpn't feel like choosing the trait for you, that would be no fun