The High Cost of the Global Warming Scam

[Rush Limbaugh]

this is why everything is so expensive. Jesus were burning food for fuel now. Hopeless.

The High Cost of the Global Warming Scam

“It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global warming; it is a scam. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion (sic) of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environment whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon, they claimed to be a consensus.”

- John Coleman, meteorologist and founder of The Weather Channel.

Coleman goes on to describe what has taken place regarding what he calls the global warming scam.

“Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then team up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalists, [and] journalists to create this wild 'scientific' scenario of the civilization-threatening environmental consequences from global warming unless we adhere to this radical agenda," says Coleman.


"Now, their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and becomes a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic political Party, the governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens.

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Sen. James Inhofe
Global Warming: The Worst of All Environmental Scares

The following excerpts are from a speech by Sen. Inhofe, Chairman of the Committee On Environment and Public Works, delivered on the floor of the U.S. Senate on July 28. As chairman of the Committee on Environment and Public Works

The cost in dollars and human suffering caused by this scam are worse than any war or disaster ever to befall man and were doing it to ourselves.

[Bokks]

I agree that where Al Gore and his merry band of... people... are taking the Global Warming phenomena is greatly out of hand, hugely expensive for the rest of us and obsenely adventageous to Gore personally, but there is no precedent for the claims that these two or three individuals have made. the government hardly supports these claims, actually the Bush administration and the senate are, if anything, impartial and downright mute on the subject.

The politically, and really business savvy, scam that Al Gore proposition of global warming is that fact that should the world get on track with Gores "Carbon Credit" proposed system, than there would be a market for a credit system that as of right now does not exist, a market to sell credits to companies and whole countries so that they would not get fined. Who would do the fining? That's unclear, the UN hardly has the power to do such a thing and it is simply not in the jurisdiction of any existing para-governmental system to regulate such emissions. but what is clear is that the broker who would be handling these internationally traded credits would be one man and his firm, Al Gore, which would make him stronger than half the world and a billionaire overnight.
that's why I don't trust Gore... well, one of the bigger reasons any way. Not only does he preach that we should all buy hybrids as if that's really going to stop emmissions at all and otherwise spend huge amounts of money that the normal person does not have while he's travelling all over the world in his private jet that every day spews out more carbon emmissions than the worst car could possibly do in 75 years.

The fact that the problem is championed, however, by a cheat who should never have been considered for any prize or recognition of any kind, does not diminish the fact that global warming is a problem. It is not a problem created solely by cars, indeed more methane--a far worse green house gas--is produced by cows who are coralled in areas of what used to be the Amazon rainforest than CO2 by all of the worlds cars put together, and more methane is produced by volcanoes and under sea fissures than by the cows, but it is a problem that will effect us if we do not take up some course of action and do what we can.

And people, just buying a hybrid isn't going to do anything... besides, then we have the problem with the smug that seeps into the ozone...

[Legio XII]

And people, just buying a hybrid isn't going to do anything... besides, then we have the problem with the smug that seeps into the ozone...

Nice Southpark reference.

[Rush Limbaugh]

So when you are proven wrong, you try to come up with your own rules?

nO i DO NOT. oF COURSE MOST LIFE WHERE ITS INBETWEEN. mY POINT IS THAT IF THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE HOT OR COLD THEY CHOOSE COLD. cAMPARE THE EQUATOR TO THE POLES. yOUR ARGUING OVER SOMETHING LIKE 20 DEGREES. iTS NIT PICKING. mORE PEOPLE LIFE WHERE ITS HOT THAN WHERE ITS COLD. dENY THAT ALL YOU LIKE.

Areas near equator are not preferred climate of humans. We would have to spend too much time trying to avoid excess heat to be efficient. Nearly every highly developed civilization originates not from hot but temperate climates.

They are when compared to the colder places. Most life prefers hot over cold. Its a no brainer.

[Tiwaz]

nO i DO NOT. oF COURSE MOST LIFE WHERE ITS INBETWEEN. mY POINT IS THAT IF THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE HOT OR COLD THEY CHOOSE COLD. cAMPARE THE EQUATOR TO THE POLES. yOUR ARGUING OVER SOMETHING LIKE 20 DEGREES. iTS NIT PICKING. mORE PEOPLE LIFE WHERE ITS HOT THAN WHERE ITS COLD. dENY THAT ALL YOU LIKE.

Stop making up your own rules. Temperate areas are temperate, NOT hot.
And most big civilizations and population centers prefer areas well above temperate and hot zone border.

People choose temperate, not hot and not cold.

They are when compared to the colder places. Most life prefers hot over cold. Its a no brainer.

Actuall, most life prefers to avoid BOTH extremes. You just try to present one extreme as preferable to another. But both extremes are completely hazardous to life. Hot even more than cold. Our bodies naturally produce heat and with some insulation we can survive in cold. In hot our only protection is sweating which requires lots of water.

[Ramashan]

Although I agree that now that industry has learned how to profit off of 'global warming' with cap and trade and other such programs they're more likely to back the policy regardless of the what the verdict will eventually be. I also think the food issue is one that comes from an energy independence issue rather than a global warming issue.

For energy independence, its either drill for more oil locally (which is a sound arguement) but how long will it be before we run into another supply and demand problem?

Or you can try to find alternative solutions such as ethenal. Which granted has many down sides which people just ignore or don't consider, such as its highly corrosive properties. The one thing I will say about food shortage is, the US government is subsidizing a huge amount of farm land to grow nothing and people, many of whom aren't even farmers, are making money by just letting their land lay fallow. I wonder what would happen if we removed subsidies on farming and began growing closer to what the US is capable. Don't you think that will solve part of the food cost problem?

There are good and bads to the whole global warming thing. My question is, lets say everyone suddenly stops believing it. Will they also then believe that we have no energy resource problem and go back to the old ways of less efficient bulbs, less R&D on alternate energy supplies, and less thoughts on recycling or automotive exhaust in general, which we know is responsible for corrosive pollutants to stone and other materials?

This is not to say we continue a lie for other purposes, just that there may be need to separate the two issues.

[Mythos]

- John Coleman, meteorologist and founder of The Weather Channel.

This has been discussed on a previous thread. This man is not an expert on climate change.

[Rush Limbaugh]

This has been discussed on a previous thread. This man is not an expert on climate change.

The point being that nobody is.

[rodne]

Could someone elaborate on how and why global warming is a "scam"? At least point me in the direction?

[TheKwas]

Could someone elaborate on how and why global warming is a "scam"? At least point me in the direction?

It's all very simple actually. You see, after the fall of the Soviet Union, communism had been disgraced all over the world and to call yourself a communist was to involke mocking by everyone else. To deal with these new conditions, communists the world over all decided to hide under a new front called 'enviromentalism' and decided that green was actually a prettier colour than red, and thus adopted that colour. However, protecting the whales from nuclear bombs was never the communists' intent, as they wanted to use this new front to inflitate all major scientific organizations (science was always a communist sympathizer anyways) and manufacture a new threat that would cause the downfall of capitalism. The myth of global warming was born. Global warming will cause all capitalist nations to crumble under the weight of a new carbon tax (except China, they can do whatever they want), and once capitalism is weak, all these enviromentalists will jump out of their hemp ponchos and take up arms. Soon the world will be undergoing another era of communist revolutions, overalls and catchy slogans included, and capitalism, liberty, and freedom will cease to exist.

[Kiljan Arslan]

carbon credit is , heres a better idea, do it or get your ass kicked.

Rush Newsmax! LOL!

[Rush Limbaugh]

Rush Newsmax! LOL!

How much sense does it take to realize that burning food for fuel is dumb? And having the government subsidize it even dumber

[Wild Bill Kelso]

How much sense does it take to realize that burning food for fuel is dumb? And having the government subsidize it even dumber

OMG.... Rush and I actually AGREE on something related to the environment. Quick look outside for pigs sprouting wings! Rush I will fight with you side by side in the quest against ethanol fuel.. I was just talking about this issue with a post-Doc today at work. We both agreed that countries should band together and write an accord banning the conversion of farmland to ethanol fuel production. Converting foodlands for the large scale production of fuel is the most short sighted and damaging decisions taken by any government in recent time. I would rather people burn more oil and emit more CO2 then see more farmland wasted in the futile attempt to reduce oil dependance. The ecological and human ramifications of this action are only now atarting to be felt.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Not saying its dumb, in fact dose little in any way to stop warming, now their are much more fuel efficent system that the government should be funding.

However Newsmax is a ing joke. Its the right wing counter punch.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Not saying its dumb, in fact dose little in any way to stop warming, now their are much more fuel efficent system that the government should be funding

Yeah. The real alternative fuel------- Oil!!!!!!!!

We need new refineries and wells and stop all this conservation crap. Plenty of oil right here of we were only willing to go get it and refine it. If were running out then the greens have no worries anyway. The point is this is costing trillions of dollars and millions of lives for something that nobody knows the facts about. Its like the religion of the left. And now its spread to the right.

Shows you how well propaganda works.

Our children will live in a self imposed lower standard of living than we. This will be a first for America.


PS This is the change Obama and Hillary promise to make come about. Its socialism pure and simple.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Uh there are other alternatives rush, fuel cells, unfortonatley not enough money going into them, but there could be if the government helped out.
whahat dose the "lefts religion", and socialism have to do with this rush?

Also rush you have in no way provided any evidence to show your claims.

And stuff from Newmax doesn't count.

[Rush Limbaugh]

Uh there are other alternatives rush, fuel cells, unfortonatley not enough money going into them, but there could be if the government helped out.

If it were profitable it would be here. I dont want the government sponsoring stuff like this. Let the market handle it. Its government over regulation causing all this.

whahat dose the "lefts religion", and socialism have to do with this rush?

Thats whats driving it. TheKwas explained it all very well.

And stuff from Newmax doesn't count.

To you. And how about the other links?

lso rush you have in no way provided any evidence to show your claims.

I have as much or more than you do for yours.

[Kiljan Arslan]

Really its the government causing it? GOt any proof to back that up RUsh?

Still waiting for proof about that religion you say I and other lefties fallow.

Info wars isn't that the place that claims that the USG planned and executed 9/11?

Senator Inhofe you mean the guy who recieved 300,000 in from oil and gas companies rush?

[Ramashan]

What I love about this argument is that Rush seems to have all sorts of problems with the government subsidizing research and propogation of alternative fuels, yet seems to have no problem with the billions of dollars the US government spends on oil subsidies which don't even include the money spent on building infrastructure and land rights the government spends so big oil can do the drilling.

I honestly don't have a problem with continued oil drilling. I think most enironmentalist ignore the forest for the trees in that they see only the small picture. But if we just say, screw alternative energy R&D let the market have at it, then we are only postponing the inevitable.

I already mentioned the solution to the food issue, stop subsidizing corn and let the nation produce what it is capable of producing.

Alternative energy can not be a one item solution. It must be a combination of things. Ethanol is OK, but we will still need oil as well as solar, wind, nuclear, batteries, etc.

I also think the housing market and the rising cost of construction materials due to the recent comsumption of China and India is another reason for our economic woes.

So, blaming the environmentalists and 'global warming' is being rather short sighted in my opinion.

[Cliomhdubh]

unless you belive in global warming then it seems like a long term money saver