Blacksmith don't add exp bonus

**Vagabond** · April 17, 2008, 04:30 AM

Sometime they do, sometime they don't. But before if the blacksmith don't add exp bonus , i just retrain the troops and it'll be fine. But now, even if i retrain my unit, nothing happen ( and i still have to pay the cost to retrain mu unit). Is it a bug ?

It really bothers me as the Mongol coming soon, without the exp bonus, my troops will be just sheeps to their mongol wolves. Agrrrrrrrrrrrr

Any, anybody help , help please.

**Faris ad Din** · April 17, 2008, 10:28 AM

I agree, something is askew with the smiths granting experience bonus to troops. Freshly trained troops from settlements that have a blacksmith well in place often miss the experience bonus, and then retraining them gives the bonus (sometimes). It's quite erratic, but sadly I do not know how to explain it either.

**republic_bohemia** · April 17, 2008, 11:15 AM

I too agree and I have prove with images.

Regards.John

**Skibbles** · April 17, 2008, 12:56 PM

Happens to me too, would be great to look into it.

**Krusadr** · April 17, 2008, 05:04 PM

same thing. wow.

**green tea** · April 17, 2008, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Vagabond

It really bothers me as the Mongol coming soon, without the exp bonus, my troops will be just sheeps to their mongol wolves. Agrrrrrrrrrrrr

Your troops will even be with the exp bonus.

But about the bug: I wish I could remember where I read it, then I could link you, but I assume it was in the BC forums. How it works:

You have some slots for recruiting/retraining. Never put more troops in the queue (right word?) than can be retrained in one round. And put them in the right order, like they are in your screen. I read once that this should be a solution, but can´t remember if it works. So if it works: please post here again, then other people that have the same problem have the solution.

**Vagabond** · April 18, 2008, 12:06 AM

Thanks everyone for sharing with me

Originally Posted by green tea

Your troops will even be with the exp bonus.

Hehe, i don't think so.

Originally Posted by green tea

But about the bug: I wish I could remember where I read it, then I could link you, but I assume it was in the BC forums. How it works:

You have some slots for recruiting/retraining. Never put more troops in the queue (right word?) than can be retrained in one round. And put them in the right order, like they are in your screen. I read once that this should be a solution, but can´t remember if it works. So if it works: please post here again, then other people that have the same problem have the solution.

I don't clearly understand but i got the idea. I'll give it a try. Today , suddenly it worked (i still don't know why ) so i had all my troops moved back from the front to retrain them. Lucky me

Originally Posted by Taneda Santôka

It's not a BC issue, it's M2TW issue, it happens in vanilla to....

Really ? Do you know how to fix it ?

Edit :I forgot, today i just had another bug, there's no port in Ikarilon (the name is not exact, i forgot it too

)

**Bulawayo** · April 18, 2008, 03:48 AM

There are some events (unknown for me) during the turn that will nullify the experience upgrade (one thing I know will do it is loading the campaign). Before ending the turn you can take a look at units planned to be upgraded by right clicking them in the upgrade queue and see the value of experience. Correctly it will show the experince that it will have after the upgrade, but in cases where that upgrade has been nullified you will see the current value. Just remove it from the queue and add it again. And also don't upgrade more units than there are slots.

**Vagabond** · April 18, 2008, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bulawayo

There are some events (unknown for me) during the turn that will nullify the experience upgrade (one thing I know will do it is loading the campaign). Before ending the turn you can take a look at units planned to be upgraded by right clicking them in the upgrade queue and see the value of experience. Correctly it will show the experince that it will have after the upgrade, but in cases where that upgrade has been nullified you will see the current value. Just remove it from the queue and add it again. And also don't upgrade more units than there are slots.

I think you're right. I took the advice Green Tea gave me and it works fine. Just train the unit you want right before you end turn ( that's the last thing you do before you end turn) ,follow exactly the order the units show on the retrain board and don't upgrade more units than slots the settlement has. I don't test the units's valeur yet . I'll try and post it later.
Thanks and sorry for my english ( it sucks huh

).

**green tea** · April 18, 2008, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Vagabond

Thanks and sorry for my english ( it sucks huh

).

Ah, I thought at first that it was my english that sucked so you didn´t knew if you had understood

.

**Faris ad Din** · April 18, 2008, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Bulawayo

There are some events (unknown for me) during the turn that will nullify the experience upgrade (one thing I know will do it is loading the campaign). Before ending the turn you can take a look at units planned to be upgraded by right clicking them in the upgrade queue and see the value of experience. Correctly it will show the experince that it will have after the upgrade, but in cases where that upgrade has been nullified you will see the current value. Just remove it from the queue and add it again. And also don't upgrade more units than there are slots.

Snap, that's excellent advice. Right-click on the units in the queue and look at the stat window to check if they'll actually get the experience bonus! And then empty the queue and refill if it shows up 0 experience. I'm a chronic saver-loader and I often save/load right before hitting end-turn so this would plague me otherwise. Thank you!

**Taneda Santôka** · April 17, 2008, 06:13 PM

It's not a BC issue, it's M2TW issue, it happens in vanilla to....

**cristim_2003** · April 22, 2008, 05:36 AM

It is a problem that plagued both M2TW and Kindoms expansion.

By trial and error, I found out a way to go around it. Actually, the add exp bonus works fine, unless you load a campaign before ending turn. In this case, the game doesn't add the experience bonus. So if I had to save and than load a campaign, I empty the training queue and than fill it again. Than end turn. Up until now it worked every time.

And I don't think you have to respect some kind of order. Anyway, I didn't.

**Vagabond** · April 22, 2008, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by cristim_2003

It is a problem that plagued both M2TW and Kindoms expansion.

By trial and error, I found out a way to go around it. Actually, the add exp bonus works fine, unless you load a campaign before ending turn. In this case, the game doesn't add the experience bonus. So if I had to save and than load a campaign, I empty the training queue and than fill it again. Than end turn. Up until now it worked every time.

And I don't think you have to respect some kind of order. Anyway, I didn't.

Maybe so,anyway i always do exactly the same

.
And congrat on your first post