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    Your Internet provider is watching you
    Fine print reveals that you have fewer rights than you might realize

    "...The Associated Press reviewed the "Acceptable Use Policies" and "Terms of Service" of the nation's 10 largest ISPs — in all, 117 pages of contracts that leave few rights for subscribers...."

    Read the rest.

    Someone else knows about your VIP ID to those porn sites, and your secret e mails. They can read it, they can check the sites you visit and they can track your internet activity and they don't even have to tell you.

    Is there anything you can do about it?
    Yes. Cancel your suscription to your ISP and pull that network wire out of your PC.

    You want to be on the Net anyway?
    Though luck, you'll be under observation , nineteen eighty four style.

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    Comcast reserves the right to block or remove traffic it deems "inappropriate, regardless of whether this material or its dissemination is unlawful."
    Wow, from the things I've seen Comcast must have some really demented perverts enforcing this clause.
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    TOS are often written that way to provide for the company/service or whatever to act on those who actually abuse. So when Joe Smith from Boise puts up his website detailing best places to pick up child porn or when some 12 yr old decides he is gonna send an email to 1million people telling them about how this girl died and if they dont forward this to others in 6 days the will die too...the ISP can act on it.

    Hell TWC's own TOS doesnt really provide much in the way in privacy.

    However, in cases of certain severe and/or repeated TOS violations or illegal activities, we reserve the right to forward any and all known information about you and your accounts to your ISP (including libraries, schools, and places of employment), e-mail service provider, your ISP account owner (if someone else is actually paying for it), and any parties whose copyright has clearly been infringed by your actions on the boards.
    The key is whether the company or service you are using violate the spirit of the TOS and can be trusted to not do it. In this day and age there is certainly no promise of privacy anyway...there is simply too much information floating out there. In the end the ISP wants to sell you a service and will happily do nothing unless YOU do something that disrupts their business.

    The article itself indicates this...
    Yet the main purpose of ISP contracts isn't to circumscribe the service for all subscribers, but rather to provide legal cover for the company if it cuts off a user who's abusing the system.
    In lawsuit happy america where some fool would probably attempt to sue an isp for denying them their "right" to cyber stalk their ex girlfriend such loose tos are understandable.

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    is anyone really interested in what kind of porn i am watching?

    Have a question about China? Get your answer here.

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    As long as my family doesn't discover me watching porn it is ok.
    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

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    I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Warmonger View Post
    I am
    let's watch some together.
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    Can I get in?

    "Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it."

    - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari, ca. 390)

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    Porn Party

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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseArcher View Post
    Your Internet provider is watching you
    Fine print reveals that you have fewer rights than you might realize



    Read the rest.

    Someone else knows about your VIP ID to those porn sites, and your secret e mails. They can read it, they can check the sites you visit and they can track your internet activity and they don't even have to tell you.

    Is there anything you can do about it?
    Yes. Cancel your suscription to your ISP and pull that network wire out of your PC.

    You want to be on the Net anyway?
    Though luck, you'll be under observation , nineteen eighty four style.
    Anything we can do about it without canceling our suscription, nope guess we will have to live with it.
    Don't take life too seriously no one gets out alive anyway.

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    Thanks for the thread, HorseArcher, it's good to be aware of these facts. I guess it's ok to use the 'net as long as one doesn't compromise oneself.

    I hope in the near future the dependence on Internet providers will be obsolete.

    The link clearly shows the limits of technology.

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    so much for privacy laws

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    Oh well, I'll just have to keep doing what I'm doing, and not look at any illegal crap, except for the odd banned book. I get a slight thrill out of reading tips on how to start WW3 MacGyver-style, with a match, a bit of string and your average household kitchen, laundry, garden, garage or shed materials.

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    I got nothing to hide they can look at my porn, and besides there was a ruling on those ULA's a while back, technically nothing they say is legal because its not a "legal" contract, ULA's dont hold up in court. the 117 page kind that is, its fully permissable for a person to protect intellectual rights(or company) but its not for them to add all those other things. either way I wouldnt be too scared of the ULA.

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    I hope,this is only an American,problem.
    All of us, use to do less "recommendable" things,like porn, p2p,posting against politicians,etc.
    But the fight against terrorism have those inconvenient.
    We always can use the, tor net ,any other IP hider,peer guardian,etc.to keep a little privacy,but aren't infallible.
    Last edited by pajomife; April 16, 2008 at 07:20 AM.

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    well you can also set yourself up a proxy server, the real criminals know how to get past these things, and they can still pull bombs, drugs and etc info from the internet with no chance of ever getting caught.

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    So googling "how to construct a nuclear weapon." while have the Qu'ran in a tab with my search for plutonium on Ebay in another tab was not a good idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseArcher View Post

    Is there anything you can do about it?
    Oh yes there is, only it'll cost you $140 per year.
    https://www.torrentfreedom.com/

    And dont be tricked by the name, it's not just about p2p.

    Traffic through Torrent Freedom is 'tunneled' through our VPN on port 443 (HTTPS). All a network admin or ISP scanner will ever see is some secure, high-bandwidth browsing activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattori View Post
    Oh yes there is, only it'll cost you $140 per year.
    https://www.torrentfreedom.com/

    And dont be tricked by the name, it's not just about p2p.
    Ahh yes, let's get another man in the middle.

    I'm sure it's a worthy service; but it does remind me just a little bit of those pop-ups that tell me they have detected PORN on my computer and I have to go install their malware.

    Guys, anonymity on the Internet is a myth. For the most part, so is privacy. The only reason your top ten google searches aren't being broadcast to the world is because, by and large, nobody cares.

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    Wow, the bastards. We seem to be edging closer and closer to the big brother state.

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