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    Default Evolution finally makes some sense to me!

    My own personal testament:

    For the last few years, I've been trying to patch up the evolution theory and make sense of it for myself, since everyone has a different theory or approach. As a human, as all humans, I'm so stuck in the human world; of popular culture, traditions, religion, and simple savage tendencies like the ability to rarely think outside the box or challenge myself to be bold -- that I completely disregard what else is out there. My entire life, even as a young boy (age 4 and 5) growing up in rural Africa, steeped in cultural and religious taboos, I always thought FAR out. I asked some extremely unending and complex questions such as, "how powerful are humans" and "if this world suddenly collapses, what else is out there to secure us and reassure us?"

    Those types of themes have always followed me through the course of my life. I always thought so far outside the box when it came to issues of science, reality, religion, and humanity, that it made me very secluded and friendless most of my life. As that went on, I became more and more dis-attached with people that I can really see no great differences between us and animals. But its also a fact.

    CONCLUSION:

    Now that I'm mostly free of taboo-related restrictions, I am free to explore evolution and I have finally stumbled upon something that answers my biggest question -- "how was it possible for us humans to have come from tiny water-dwelling micro-organisms?"

    And my answer was -- Sperm!! Just look at the case with sperm, we go from tiny organisms to massive creatures in only several months of time. Its not a big deal for many, but it was a major awakening for me. Thank you for listening, I hope to keep this topic open so we can share more info and details on this massive issue.


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    Semen is the answer to many deep complicated things my friend.




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    Wrong Heinz, the answer is 42....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman View Post
    Wrong Heinz, the answer is 42....
    Pshh and my name is Arthur Dent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    My own personal testament:

    For the last few years, I've been trying to patch up the evolution theory and make sense of it for myself, since everyone has a different theory or approach. As a human, as all humans, I'm so stuck in the human world; of popular culture, traditions, religion, and simple savage tendencies like the ability to rarely think outside the box or challenge myself to be bold -- that I completely disregard what else is out there. My entire life, even as a young boy (age 4 and 5) growing up in rural Africa, steeped in cultural and religious taboos, I always thought FAR out. I asked some extremely unending and complex questions such as, "how powerful are humans" and "if this world suddenly collapses, what else is out there to secure us and reassure us?"

    Those types of themes have always followed me through the course of my life. I always thought so far outside the box when it came to issues of science, reality, religion, and humanity, that it made me very secluded and friendless most of my life. As that went on, I became more and more dis-attached with people that I can really see no great differences between us and animals. But its also a fact.

    CONCLUSION:

    Now that I'm mostly free of taboo-related restrictions, I am free to explore evolution and I have finally stumbled upon something that answers my biggest question -- "how was it possible for us humans to have come from tiny water-dwelling micro-organisms?"

    And my answer was -- Sperm!! Just look at the case with sperm, we go from tiny organisms to massive creatures in only several months of time. Its not a big deal for many, but it was a major awakening for me. Thank you for listening, I hope to keep this topic open so we can share more info and details on this massive issue.
    seems to me your thinking is still a little short sighted

    stretch that NINE months out to say, 4BillionYears

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMofo View Post
    seems to me your thinking is still a little short sighted

    stretch that NINE months out to say, 4BillionYears
    My point is that, if we can go from a tiny organism to an infinitely larger creature in just months, it can serve as the miniature model for the longer evolution theory.

    Its not the brightest moment, but its a start for me.
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    Um.......ok.

    Whatever works for you, I dont care how you embrace evolution, just as long as you do.
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    haha, my dad is a geneticist so ive been brought up with the idea of evolution pretty much all my life. Or well, actually he only started to introduce it a a serious idea when i was old enough to weigh it with religion and decide for myself.

    Anyway, OP, that was actually Darwin's theory and basis as well, like the fact that our very early embryo seems to gradually 'evolve' from cell, to multicellular organism, to fish, to primative mammal, to human. But it is actually more like an ''echo'' of what we have already gone through than the process happening again.
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    Yeh, it really does support evolution quite nicely.
    Did you know that during one of your ambrio stages you actually had lungs?
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    do you mean gills?

    edit: crap, just beaten to the punch eheh

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    I'm very happy you accept evolution but no, not at all, Dahir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    My own personal testament:

    For the last few years, I've been trying to patch up the evolution theory and make sense of it for myself, since everyone has a different theory or approach. As a human, as all humans, I'm so stuck in the human world; of popular culture, traditions, religion, and simple savage tendencies like the ability to rarely think outside the box or challenge myself to be bold -- that I completely disregard what else is out there. My entire life, even as a young boy (age 4 and 5) growing up in rural Africa, steeped in cultural and religious taboos, I always thought FAR out. I asked some extremely unending and complex questions such as, "how powerful are humans" and "if this world suddenly collapses, what else is out there to secure us and reassure us?"

    Those types of themes have always followed me through the course of my life. I always thought so far outside the box when it came to issues of science, reality, religion, and humanity, that it made me very secluded and friendless most of my life. As that went on, I became more and more dis-attached with people that I can really see no great differences between us and animals. But its also a fact.

    CONCLUSION:

    Now that I'm mostly free of taboo-related restrictions, I am free to explore evolution and I have finally stumbled upon something that answers my biggest question -- "how was it possible for us humans to have come from tiny water-dwelling micro-organisms?"

    And my answer was -- Sperm!! Just look at the case with sperm, we go from tiny organisms to massive creatures in only several months of time. Its not a big deal for many, but it was a major awakening for me. Thank you for listening, I hope to keep this topic open so we can share more info and details on this massive issue.
    have you ever seen what an embryo/fetus looks like?

    If those little lines under the head sort of look like gills to you... well, that's because that's what they are. Almost every creature, and not just mammals but even birds and alligators, look exactly like this at the same age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lector V View Post
    If those little lines under the head sort of look like gills to you... well, that's because that's what they are.
    head?

    a good book to read that puts evolution of animals and such on a large scale:
    Rare Earth: Why complex life is uncommon in the Universe
    by David Ward and Donald Brownlee.
    Thank you for reading this assuredly fantastic post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulf View Post
    head?
    The topmost blob. It hasn't really developed much yet, but the tail will recede to become legs (well, that little pod part will actually extend to become legs) and the biggest, topmost bulb will become the head.
    It looks kinda like a dinosaur right now, but I believe that the slightly grayer parts will shift forward and become eyes. A little older and you could see two black that are the eyes, but I think by then the gills recede too.
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    I was under the impression that animals don't evolve through all their previous stages in embryonic development... So we don't have "gills", it just resembles such, and that this was debunked...

    It could be my christian high school getting to me again, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airbus View Post
    I was under the impression that animals don't evolve through all their previous stages in embryonic development... So we don't have "gills", it just resembles such, and that this was debunked...

    It could be my christian high school getting to me again, though...
    I'm pretty sure that they're technically gills, it's what my high school teacher called them. She somethimes thought we were idiots though, so she could have dumbed down the content, but I think she liked me at least.
    Anyway, I'm not a biologist, but I'm pretty sure that that's what they are, and it does make sense, too, in a way. (it is kinda gross to thing that we not only lived in our moms amniotic fluid for 9 months put actually breathed it in too... but that's life)
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    "Evolution finally makes some sense to me!"

    just now?

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    They're probably not "gills" as such, but the remnants of what would turn into gills in other animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    My own personal testament:

    For the last few years, I've been trying to patch up the evolution theory and make sense of it for myself, since everyone has a different theory or approach. As a human, as all humans, I'm so stuck in the human world; of popular culture, traditions, religion, and simple savage tendencies like the ability to rarely think outside the box or challenge myself to be bold -- that I completely disregard what else is out there. My entire life, even as a young boy (age 4 and 5) growing up in rural Africa, steeped in cultural and religious taboos, I always thought FAR out. I asked some extremely unending and complex questions such as, "how powerful are humans" and "if this world suddenly collapses, what else is out there to secure us and reassure us?"

    Those types of themes have always followed me through the course of my life. I always thought so far outside the box when it came to issues of science, reality, religion, and humanity, that it made me very secluded and friendless most of my life. As that went on, I became more and more dis-attached with people that I can really see no great differences between us and animals. But its also a fact.

    CONCLUSION:

    Now that I'm mostly free of taboo-related restrictions, I am free to explore evolution and I have finally stumbled upon something that answers my biggest question -- "how was it possible for us humans to have come from tiny water-dwelling micro-organisms?"

    And my answer was -- Sperm!! Just look at the case with sperm, we go from tiny organisms to massive creatures in only several months of time. Its not a big deal for many, but it was a major awakening for me. Thank you for listening, I hope to keep this topic open so we can share more info and details on this massive issue.
    It's certain at the first place that spermatozoa present in semen are responsible for human evolution up to a great extent. To be honest, there's nothing to wonder about. It's been known for long enough that life cannot progress on earth without fertilization and sperms are responsible for bringing genetic changes throughout the course of human history. It is also a factor that determines the features of a being. For example, if you made a man from Sierra Nevada breed with a dwarf girl from a place like Zaire, the result would be unique because of different genes or characteristics coming from both parents. That's how certain instances of bizarreness arise in human beings at times. A man certainly shouldn't mate with a cow. Because the result can be horrendous. Similarly we can assume that such sexual interactions would have occurred in long past that continually kept on developing the features prevalent in a generic human being with the passage of time. And you know the result.
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    Dahir, there are much more to the story of evolution..
    It's called DNA...

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