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    ooc: This happened at the very end of last term, when the Greek vote was passed

    A messenger enters the Senate halls. He brings word from the diplomatic mission to the Hellenic League.

    Salve senators!

    We traveled to Genoa to meet up with our Consul and he gave us permission to pursue our diplomatic mission at our leisure. We decided to rest our laurels at Genoa, in the very north of our dear Republic. The town was bustling with legionnaires celebrating the successful assault. I must say, our legionnaires were the very model of a Roman. They did not pillage, they did not loot, and they left the women and children alone. Citizens openly praised the Roman Republic, they love their newfound freedom. While it would have been nice to stay longer our Consul was waiting for closure on the Greek matter so we decided to move further north, to Mediolanum.

    In Mediolanum we found an almost apocalyptic scene. Instead of the usual bustle that characterizes any city, Mediolanum was filled with Greek soldiers. Martial law had been declared and a strict curfew was in place. The people of Mediolanum - in so far as they were there - very reluctant members of the Hellenic League. The city had been conquered instead of joining it by choice, and now the authorities had enacted martial law 'because of the Gallic threat'. I did not take a fool to see the laws were enacted to suppress the local population.

    The visit itself was relatively useless. Because of the martial law the authorities weren't allowed to speak to diplomats, so Lucius Venantius and I decided to move east, to Patavium.

    The situation in Patavium was little better, the freedom-loving Celts who live there are considered barbarians by the conquering soldiers and the hoplites treat the locals worse than stray dogs. Most men are killed and the ones who aren't are in constant fear of being enslaved. Women are, conspicuously, absent from the streets. The city is no longer under martial law, but the population is too broken to take advantage of the reduced garrison.

    Here too we could not do business as no representative of the government could be found. Fearing we would have to wander Illyria for months before we would find someone we could negotiate with we decided to take a boat to Athens, that ancient centre of philosophy and democracy. Traders appear to be suspicious of strangers, so it might be difficult. Apparently the local Celts like to sabotage Greek boats while they're out at sea. Maybe some money will do the trick.

    We will write again as soon as we reach Athens.

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    Another messenger arrives, this time from the direction of Ostia, Rome's harbour. He bears more news from the delegation to the Hellenic League.

    Salvete once more, Senators!

    My companion and I have finally reached Athens, though unfortunately our reception here was lukewarm at best. We arrived by ship in Piraeus and were awaited by Hippophanes, a member of the Boule, the Athenian senate. As we walked to the city we had a conversation about politics, and it struck me he was careful not to say anything critical of the Spartans who legally rule the Hellenic League. Hippophanes arranged our proposal to be discussed in the Assembly, the famous Athenian open parliament.

    In the few days it took to arrange this meeting we took our time to see something of this legendary city. What struck us as strangest was that everyone was excited about having something real to discuss in the Assembly, it was almost as if that hadn't happened in a while. I asked some freemen about this and they explained that while the Assembly was still the supreme political organ, its political value had decreased steadily since the Spartans took charge of the League. The Spartans had given the Boule the right of veto, in return for the Boule's unquestioning loyalty in political matters, reducing the Assembly to a mere farce. This was the first time in years the Assembly could actually decide on something.

    Or so they thought... The motion was discussed to the point of boredom. Some people had heard of the Sicilian Wars and the extremely effective way the legions dealt with phalanxes, some had heard of the subsequent occupation of Sicilia and the fair treatment of Greeks. They argued that anyone who beats Greeks so easily is worthy of respect and anyone who treats them well after vanquishing them is worthy of friendship. Others argued that going to war against Greeks is always treachery, no matter where they are, or what happened before.

    Then one man stood up. Personally I did not know him, but he instilled great fear in my travel companion. My companion told me it was the commander of the Free Forces of Massilia, a ruthless man by the name of Cleon Nicator. He had commanded the Massilians before and during the Gallic invasion, inflicting great losses upon the Gauls with his much smaller force. After Massilia was taken it was he who organized and led the resistance and he ordered his privateers to spare any Roman they captured. A noble man, or so one would think, but he was not without vices. He was ruthless in his pursuit of victory, even going so far as personally killing Greeks who stood in his way. After the liberation of Massilia the people of that city sought to prosecute him, but he chose a life of voluntary exile above banishment. He returned to his home city of Athens to re-take his place in the Assembly. He scolded the men who accused the Romans of being blood-thirsty baby killers, and gave us the highest praise in a speech that lasted, at least, half an hour.

    The Assembly voted, and the path was clear. Our goal was within sight, nay, within reach even, when a voice behind us spoke. One word that was all it took, one word: 'veto.' Hippophanes had been waiting for the perfect moment to say it, and this was it. We turned around, betrayal and shock on our faces. He looked smug, smiling at both of us. I had to restrain my companion, because I believe for a moment he wanted to kill Hippophanes where he stood.

    As the disappointed Assembly crowd dispersed after this failed meeting, a slave bumped into me, passing me a note in the process. As I read it, my surprise grew. It was from Cleon, the man who actively defended the Roman cause in the Assembly. He wanted to see us. He arranged a meeting in a tavern in some shady part of town. Spartan presence was never really high in that district, for some mysterious reason. My companion expressed concern going to such a questionable location without an armed escort. He explained that the local law enforcement did not patrol these areas and it would be nothing for the criminal element to make us disappear. I wondered why such an avid defender of a Roman alliance would want two Romans gone. My companion was distinctly quiet on this point. I decided we should take our chances and at the given time (well after sunset) we stepped into a dark tavern. The situation in there was beyond words. I thought, for a fleeting moment that Bacchus had set up house here.

    We quietly moved along the wall and settled at a table in a niche. It was not long before Cleon entered. He smiled a toothy grin and shouted "Wine! Wine for me and my fine Roman friend here!" purposefully ignoring my aid. "You must have wine! You LOOK like a Senator and here.... that can get you killed!" Cleon roars with laughter. I decided to get down to business as I did not want to spend any more time here than absolutely necessary. The wine arrived Cleon seeing that I was all business said one word, "Drink." his smile was gone. I drank, my hands slightly trembled, I noticed that my companion was glaring at him. Cleon pays no mind. His smile returned, "Now what is it you wish to discuss?" I laid out our problem before him, he nodded understandingly, and when I was done he prepared to speak. Before he had the chance to however he was interrupted by my companion. In a rage he started to accuse Cleon of all matter of horrendous things. Stating that to trust this man would corrupt our very souls. I could tell from the feverish look in his eyes that he was telling the truth on everything. I was drained; we had to get out of there. I told my companion to wait outside and continued on, heeding my friend’s dire warning and keeping a wary eye.

    But what Cleon told us, could not be anything different from the truth. He described the situation, and it was a grim picture. Completing our mission would be quite the task it seemed. All the cities in the Hellenic League who even had the right to vote (many of the conquered cities did not even have that right) were controlled by their local version of the Boule, all controlled by Sparta.

    When I told my companion after the meeting he became even more agitated... telling me that convincing the Spartan king of anything would be so monumental a task that we might as well go home. So extreme in their xenophobic nature, they've been known to outright kill any foreign diplomat they didn’t respect. I reminded my companion that we were on a mission for the Senate and People of Rome. To fail this mission would wreck our respective careers and could easily spell doom for the Republic. We had no choice; we had to travel to Sparta, ancient heart of warfare itself. As I write, we are travelling to Sparta, we will write again when we have more news.

    Vale,
    Marcus Lucretius Falco, Praetor of Rome
    Lucius Venantius, aide to the Tribune of Plebes
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    Salve senators!

    I write this dispatch with a heavy heart. Our entire mission is jeopardized. Our last message was written when we had left Athens for Sparta. In the meantime we have reached Sparta. We were amazed by the incredible discipline of its citizens. After the many warnings of my companion on the state of things with Sparta, I came to believe that we were entering the jaws of Hades itself. But it was not so, we were greeted kindly, with respect even. I was relieved, but my aide was even tenser. I should have known. The king of the Spartans, Archidamus V, offered us food and wine and pleasantries were exchanged. I allowed myself a smile for the first time in a while; it was going well I thought. I then explained our position and reasons for coming here. The Spartan king listened, silent. He then told us something that will haunt me for as long as I live. "In these halls, great Roman, all who eat, or drink, here are friends; even our enemies are honored here." From the shadows a skinny man emerged. His eyes were filled with a burning hatred. He looked at us as if every move we made, and in fact our very existence was cursed in his eyes.

    The man appeared to be dressed is some African fashion. That, and the burning hatred, led me to believe the man to be Carthaginian. My companion groaned: "Oh, no..." The Spartan king spoke again. "We would ally with you, Roman, if you knew how to value peace and war. However, the mere fact you dared to march against the Carthaginians, and occupy their lands forcing them to live in the desert show you are unworthy of our friendship. We cannot support your request as long as you are at war with the Carthaginians."

    I have always hated hypocrisy, and it was difficult not to lash out at the most powerful king on earth. I restrained myself and said: "We Romans have endless debates about which wars we do and, more importantly, which wars we do not engage ourselves in. We are not led by the whims of one man; our legions do not march where they please. When we engaged in a war on Carthage, we did so after lengthy debates. We had tried to make peace before we marched into Africa, but their senate treated our envoy without respect and made incredible demands of Rome. Furthermore, we had reason to believe they were behind the kidnapping of a Roman Pro-Magistrate. If anything, you should accuse the Carthaginians of not knowing the value of peace!"

    The king’s face became red with anger, the great hall had become deathly silent. My companion's hand was on his dagger at his belt a determined, vacant look on his face; he looked as if he were getting ready to die. I wondered if perhaps I had overstepped my bounds. The Spartan king said simply this, "You lie!" he then drew a sword, "leave this place Roman filth! You dare to insult me in MY great hall!? You dare to challenge the might of the Hellenic Empire?! Were it not for our laws, you would be dead now Roman!" The king spit at my feet, in obvious disgust.

    We returned to our provided residence later that evening and retired for the night. The both of us were exhausted. A courier arrived in the morning, before we could leave, announcing that Archidamus V granted us another audience. We go now, to our business.

    Vale,
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    Lucius Venantius, aide to the Tribune of Plebes
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    Senators,

    The following is word for word, as transcribed by my aide, what happened in the great hall of Archidamus V.

    "After some ‘discussion,’ we got the truth out of the Carthaginian flea" the king starts, "I don’t like being made a fool of! The Carthaginian diplomat is dragged out in shackles; he has, very obviously, been abused. “Let this be a warning to you Roman. I will hear your talks, but first there must be a ceasefire between you and our allies!” The king produces a parchment, “Your signature Roman.” I signed without hesitation.

    Archidamus V then glares at the diplomat who immediately starts to protest, “Great king I need the perm…”

    “Your signature or your blood on this treaty!” the king interrupts, cold steel in his eyes. The diplomat shook violently, the scrawl which he produced could barely be called a signature, but it was signed. The king then turns his attention at us, “Know this I have three large armies ready to strike at your northern borders, anger me and you will feel my wrath!"


    The Spartan king was obviously unused to the fine points of politics. After this sudden turn of events he immediately came down to business once more. The alliance we had proposed could now be accepted. We also agreed to a map exchange, as not to infringe on each other’s territory.

    Realizing that I was in my element being the only true politician there, I decided to push the matter of Patavium and Mediolanum. I casually mentioned that the tactical advantages of these 2 provinces were average at best. I then asked Archidamus V if he saw something I did not; asking him to bestow upon me his great knowledge in tactical matters. To my delight, he told us both that now that we were allies, there were no more tactical advantages. He then went on to say that dealing with the cursed barbarians was a drain on his treasury and wished he could raze both provinces to the ground. I mention that it is simply too bad that we didn’t get these 2 provinces first. I explain to the king that our commanders have said if we had them it would give us a great tactical advantage over the Gauls. Archidamus V, thinking himself clever, offers to sell us the provinces. I hesitate. Seeing my hesitation he then declares that it would be of great benefit to our alliance and that I, a simple politician, should listen to my military betters. I agree and ask what he wants for the provinces. He states simply 10,000 silver.


    It is done, Senators! We now have control of northern Italy, with not a drop spilt.

    Vale,
    Marcus Lucretius Falco, Praetor of Rome
    Lucius Venantius, aide to the Tribune of Plebes


    ooc: If you decide to rep me for this story, rep Grandis Latro as well. He has contributed at least as much to this story as I have.
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    "That is great news indeed,we have secured all of Northern Italy without war.This is a Roman triumph.Now we can secure our borders and increase the size of our military forces."


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    ooc: I am lost - what just happened?

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    'Incredible. Admirable. Truly worthy or Roman discipline and courage. My worst fears have been, if not abolished, at least postponed. The Senate and People of Rome are most greatful to both of you, Senators. May this be a lesson that clashes are not always on the battlefield, they can be on the field of diplomacy as well.'

    ooc: I would really like to know how the 'real', RTW negotiations were held.
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    ooc: it was done with a remarkable amount of game diplomacy
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    ooc: How so? The AI diplomacy is incredibly stubborn and unlogical. You must be some kind of a magician.

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    After examining the letters himself and coming up with his own conclusions and points to make, Marcus stands from his chair and speaks his mind.

    "You may all clap and cheer to your heart's content, but I will not do so. While it is true that I am very grateful for the Spartan King's "cooperation" on this matter and his agreement in ceding us his lands directly north of here, I can only look at the members of this chamber with disgust. This man, this..."king," has disgraced our magistrates through words and threats, and has forced them to agree to his fool-hardy decisions without giving them time to consult us, or even the assemblies, on this matter. How can we call ourselves allies to this tyrant when he shows no respect towards our traditions, and our constitution itself!"

    Marcus then pauses for awhile, making the Senate believe that he is done with his speech, allowing them to agree or disagree with him. When one man stands, he (Marcus) continues his speech even louder to show the dangers of allying with the Spartan King.

    "If you listened to the messenger, or closely read the letters yourself, you will see that he threatened not only our officials, but our nation as a whole. Five armies ready to strike at Genoa...what are we, sheep running from our farmer's dog? No, we are our own country, independent of any and all tyrants. Independent of nations who treat us as clients, and independent of Spartan rule and influence. Look what they have done to the Athenians! They hold no power as a city-state, and what little power they hold is controlled by the Spartan King's puppets and agents. If we do not do something to show our dominance in this region, the Spartan King will continue to believe we are afraid of him and his armies.

    We must break this alliance once we have placed garrisons in Patavium and Mediolanum. We cannot trust a man who would ally himself with the descendants of Dido, and loudly trumpet this alliance in the face of our magistrates. He is smart enough to know the anger we feel towards them, yet he clearly disrespects us. Telling our noble Senator to respect his military betters...ha! Were this king advanced in his knowledge of war and peace, he would have treated our diplomats with the utmost respect. Rome is not a Republic to be trifled with, and this man must be taught that.

    Am I calling for a war and an invasion? No, not at this point, at least. Yet, I must stress the fact that our fleets must be on alert, lest Athenian ships under the command of Spartan officers arrive in our ports and bays. We do not want to see the Spartans crawling from the seas and sacking our cities, do we? The magnificent city of Athens has fallen under this man's corruption and taint, and now the inhabitants bow before him. He is a spoiled rat who must be taught a lesson, whether it be taught on this very day, or in many years.

    Remember the armies he mentioned to our officials and the armies that we have seen in paintings of Cisalpine Gaul? I can guarantee you that the armies will either stay in the region, or leave it very, very slowly. This Spartan wants nothing more than power, and he is a disgrace to his fellow Greeks, including his own city-state!"
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    "I agree with your point, noble Consul. We should engage in a war with Greece when the time comes. But without this alliance we do not have the breathing space we need to prepare for that war, because the war would be a constant threat.

    Right now we must prepare for the coming war. And in that preparation we must make use of the cities of Mediolanum and Patavium. These cities also allow us to outflank the Gauls in Bononia from at least three different sides. We cannot underestimate the value of these treaties, and we cannot underestimate the value of these cities."
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    Vitruvius stands a big smile on his face

    “Marcus Lucretius,
    With your letters and the report of my aide that travelled with you, it is clear that you had quite a journey. I thank the Gods that we are able to help the poor citizens that were mistreated at Mediolanum and Patvium. My aide described horrible sights, families being butchered, that they were a broken people. Rome shines as a beacon of civilization now, no longer are we conquerors, no now we are the enlightened civilization of the Mediterranean. Now we regroup and strengthen, we make all of Italy a worthy Republic. We build, we train more legions, and we make all of Italy happy and free. We become the brightest day to the Hellenic League’s dark night. The alliance gives us time, but one day they will attack us because we represent all that they hate. We will be strong then and beat them, and all of Greece will welcome us as brothers! Because we will give them the freedom they so rightly deserve! Yes, today is a great day! And we have you to thank for it, Marcus Lucretius!
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    Falco rises to speak once more.

    "I thank you all for your kind words. I was the will of the Senate that the Hellenic League should - for the moment at least - be pacified. I am but a humble messenger for this noble institution. I took opportunities as I judged them within the Senates wishes" His eyes unvoluntarily rest upon the Junior Consul for a moment. "I judged the cities of Mediolanum and Patavium a valuable asset to the Republic, and when they were offered to me for a mere 10.000 denarii I saw no reason to decline that offer.

    These letters will never fully describe the horrors in Mediolanum and Patavium, nor will any words that I know of. It was horrifying, and I am sure that we will be able to offer the people of these two cities the rest they deserve. We must not waste time wondering about the justification of my actions yet though, as right now we need to act.

    What I have done is in the past, and right now we do not have the luxury of time to look at the past. Right now we must pacify the last remaining enemy city in Italia, Bononia. After that, we must rebuild Gallia Cisalpina and reposition the legions in the north so they are ready when the Spartan king decides he has toyed with us long enough. Then we can show him the true extent of his mistake. We will fight the Greeks, we will beat the Greeks and we will conquer the Greeks, but not now. Now we must conquer Bononia and rebuild the newly acquired territory. Vote people, vote for the good of our new lands and for the defence of the Republic!

    Should you, senators, find my actions unconstitutional, then prosecute me. But please, I beg you, not for my own sake, but for the sake of this Republic, wait until the senate has reached a decision about the new course of action for our consul to follow. I will not flee, nor will I escape judgment by other means, I will defend myself in court and I will do it after the decision of the senate about Cisalpine Gaul.
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    Sextus Julius rises to speak:

    I have just sent a message to our Senior Consul about this matter. I am sure he would wish to congratulate Falco on his negotiations and talks, and I shall add my own compliments to his.

    I also agree with the Junior Consul on the matter of the Greeks. Yes, they have proven to be a cunning, deceitful civilisation, if you may, and inevitably, we will have to go to war against them. But this breathing space is exactly what we need to help us build up our legions and armies, ready to march against them when the time comes.

    And when it does, we must strike quickly, because as you can see, Greece is already expanding north into central Europe. It looks like the barbarians cannot hold them back in the slightest. Therefore, we should use this time well, and endeavour to do as much as possible in the limited time that there is. To accomplish this a number of things need to be done.

    1. Capture of Bononia: Since northern Italy is now secure, I suppose we should just round off our possesions in Cisalpine Gaul with the eradication of the Gauls from Bononia. Quintus Marius is already poised at the edge of the border ready to attack at the first order given by the Senate. This should be decided as swiftly as possible.

    2. Stopping of desertion: As said earlier this term, many of our cities are starting to lose population as people are leaving the cities because of overcrowding and squalor. We need to build suburbs, buildings and expand cities to fit more people so that the population rises, or otherwise, we need to distribute them in the countryside.

    3. Training of new legions: Currently, many legions in central and southern Italy are not much use to us. I believe that to make room for more legions, some of the less needed units should be disbanded, and more legions recruited in the north for defence and later offence when the time comes. The reason why they should be recruited in the north is that if they take casualties, it will be easier to retrain.

    The Junior Consul recently offered to supervise the construction of things in cities, and also to train more legions for later, to lessen the workload of Marius. I fully support his offer, and believe he should take up that role. I think the way things should work is that Consul Marcus Valerius should keep the cities growing and happy, and do the administrative work like recruiting more legions. These legions should then be sent to Consul Marius for tactical positioning for military operations.

    What do you think of this, Conscript Fathers?

    ooc: What Gaius Julius Civilis and Grandis Latro did, was that they wrote up the role-playing part of it, while I operated the negotiations, then I sent them the screenshots to post here. It ended up coming out quite well.

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    "I agree with your idea,Quintus.The legions in south aren't useful for us.There isn't any real threat from there,maybe only a naval invasion by the Greeks but our navy is stronger than theirs.We should conquer the lands owned by the Greeks because they have good trade and would give us a lot of money.The invasion of Gaul's lands may hold on,trade is nearly 0 there and the lands aren't so good for farming."
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    ooc: I just noticed we didn't get their map information, did we? It isn't in the treaty with the Greeks.
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    ooc: I think we did. If you look at the campaign, in the mini-map you can see all of the Greeks' land.

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    Marcus speaks:
    "I will accept the honorable position as Quaestor if its the will of the senate."

    "This is truly a great victory made by true Roman, but still do we need to reconsider the treat the Greeks truly are."
    "Also do we need to reconsider how our other regions should be manage, is there still problem in our African Province and what is the curent status in Sicilia and Corsica/Sarinia?"
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    We shall fwee...Wode's Avatar Senator
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    Default Re: Cvria Ivlia, Consulate of Parthicus and Corvinus

    Lvcivs rises

    The decision is that of my father and Metellus, and they both feel you will be a great candidate.

    And praise for our envoys! They secured the northern border with Greece! Now take Bononia and send our men to the great walls that defend Italia!(alps)

    OOC: Did you use Force diplomacy?:hmmm: If so, you get a angry face , because while realsitic negotiations should be done with the AI using it, the demands we made were UNrealistic IMHO. If it wasn't force diplomacy, HOW THE F$#K!
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    Default Re: Cvria Ivlia, Consulate of Parthicus and Corvinus

    ooc: only the ceasefire with Carthage was done using Force Diplomacy, because they were still making ridiculous demands for the ceasefire. The Greek treaty was entirely game diplomacy, which is nice, because it means the treaty is not eternal (which it wouldn't be historically)
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